Poul Anderson Interview On Youtube

I have been trying to post a link to a Poul Anderson interview on Youtube but either can't do it or don't know how to. The reference is:

https:www.youtube.com/watch?v
=qsstCR44lbo

When I click on this link on an email, where I received it, I get straight to the video whereas, when I go to the link online, I get "Video unavailable." However, searching for:

"Poul Anderson SF writer interview/advice on writing"

- gets me straight to the video.

After all these years of writing about Poul Anderson, this is the first time that I have heard him speak - apart from overhearing a conversation at a Con party.

Summary From Notes Taken While Watching The Video

Anything said about plot in sf applies equally to all fiction. Sf is a set of narrative techniques. Plot, character, background and ideas are not separate. A plot is a scheme of events in a story.

Achilles' character drives the plot of the Iliad because it determines when he stops, then resumes, fighting. The plot would have been different with Odysseus as hero. Hamlet's character drives the plot of Hamlet because it prevents him from killing Claudius earlier. The plot of the Iliad is external whereas Finnegans Wake is internal.

The three plots according to Heinlein are:

Boy meets Girl;
The Little Tailor;
The Man Who Learns Better.

(Anderson takes the Little Tailor to be "The Man Who Solves A Problem" whereas I took Heinlein to mean "The Man Who Beats City Hall.")

The Heinleinian plots can be reversed or combined. In sf, problems are solved by the hero's ingenuity. (Many examples in Anderson.) A man who fails to learn is tragic or farcical. The wrong lesson learned is ironic. In Anderson's World Without Stars, the narrator "learns better" that the girl of "Boy Meets Girl" is long dead. (The characters also solve the problem of how to escape from their "World Without Stars.")

There are other ideas of how many plots there are but Anderson is one of those who think that plots cannot be classified although Heinlein's list might be helpful.

Anything can suggest a story if you have that frame of mind. The experience of bureaucratism while traveling around Europe followed by the experience of McCarthyism after returning to the US generated "Sam Hall." McCarthyism was not as frightful as it has become in legend and it was possible to mock it with impunity even at the time.

A plot should combine logic or rightness with surprise or newness. The surprise should nevertheless be a logical outcome of the premise. (I noticed this with Brob.) Coincidence in plots is acceptable to readers only if it is disadvantageous to the hero.

That is not all but all that I wrote. Link here.