Sunday, 9 August 2026

Wells And Verne

The Lords Of Creation, CHAPTER FOURTEEN.

Janice reflects that the Britannian ancestors who came to the Dyson sphere were so historically recent that they were:

"Post Jules Verne, or mid-Jules Verne, at least." (p. 155)

For a long time, I have thought of Poul Anderson as a successor of:

Mary Shelley
Mark Twain
HG Wells
L. Sprague de Camp
Robert Heinlein

- but have not included Verne in this list maybe because I think in terms of English-language sf?

In Alan Moore's The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the early twentieth century space race is between the British who have Cavorite and the French who have a big cannon...

Retro-sf should acknowledge and combine the heritages of Wells and Verne. The latter disliked Cavorite:

"'Il invente!'"

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

If the British who got herded into that Dyson sphere arrived there "mid-Jules Verne," I might date that to about 1880.

Ad astra! Sean

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

Maybe Verne disliked "Cavorite" because it was too much like magic.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Yes. Not based in science. Wells "...invents."

S.M. Stirling said...

Wells often used "arbitrary" increases in technological capacity, then explored the -consequences- of the discovery without going into much detail about it. Verne tended to limit himself to things that could be done with contemporary materials and knowledge -- tho' in his submarine adventure, the sub has the capacity of a nuclear engine.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul and Mr. Stirling!

Paul: Good SF writers should invent--and do that plausibly, as Anderson so often did.

Mr. Stirling: Yes, but it was that unconvincing arbitrariness that made much of Wells' SF unsatisfactory to me--as seen in THE ISLAND OF DR MOREAU.

I'm more inclined to favor Verne's approach, sticking to what can be done using current knowledge/materials. Yes, in 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, Verne went plausibly beyond what was then known.

Ad astra! Sean