Wednesday, 22 July 2026
About Now
-Punk And Retro-
Here at Behind-The-Times blog, we are only just getting to grips with New Wave phenomena like cyberpunk, steampunk and dieselpunk although we have previously mentioned retro-sf. (Scroll down.)
Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates is seminal steampunk.
SM Stirling's Lords Of Creation is retro.
Anderson did not write any steampunk or retro although he could easily have turned his hand to either of these sub-genres if an editor or publisher had asked him to.
Every time that a new sf idea or sub-genre is mentioned, it is necessary to scan Anderson's vast output to check whether anything that he wrote does come under this category. And probably none of us is familiar with everything that he wrote.
Steampunk or retro characters would easily fit into the multiversal clientele of the Old Phoenix, whose name seems appropriate.
Sf is always looking forward, to the future, and back to the classics like Wells, people in the past looking forward - to the future. Now we just have to meet ourselves.
Wind Whispered
In Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates, when William Ashbless' magically generated clone says that it has come to kill him, Ashbless draws his sword and asks why. That is all that needs to happen for narrative purposes. However, between the drawing of the sword and the asking of the question:
Tuesday, 21 July 2026
Apep And Hell
SF And Fantasy
Diversity And Entropy
It is unthinkable that time travel would intrude in a heroic fantasy like The Broken Sword or that magic would work in the Time Patrol series although characters from the different kinds of universes can meet in the Old Phoenix Inn between universes. How much might the real universe (or multiverse) encompass? A lot, although mothing like what has been imagined. Scientists have had to discover the laws of motion, the electromagnetic spectrum, biological evolution, sub-atomic particles, the strong and weak nuclear forces, quantum mechanics, mass-energy equivalence, relativity including the light speed limit, other galaxies, cosmic expansion, curvature of space, black holes, dark matter and dark energy in a universe where consciousness is not (like gravity etc) a fundamental force of nature but instead is a by-product of natural selection within temporary, local, negative entropy. This real universe is the setting of Poul Anderson's hard sf, including his Technic History where civilizations are entropic. In Norse mythology, which Anderson celebrated, the conflicting but interacting forces of heat and cold are basic whereas consciousness, including deity, is emergent. The entropic and Norse universes come together when an explorer of a globular cluster at the far edge of another spiral arm remembers the myth of fire and ice. See:
Monday, 20 July 2026
Predecessors And Coinages
"The Boat of Millions of Years"
Unique?
In the preceding post, with Anderson as our axis, so to say, we also referred to time travel works by:
Some Time Travel Comparisons
(ii) Anyone who is just starting to time travel cannot know whether their timeline is mutable or immutable. Anderson's Jack Havig tries to prevent his father's death before he learns not to try. All the evidence indicates that Audrey Niffenegger's Henry DeTamble also inhabits an immutable timeline. However, wanting to be sure that he will always return to the future in which he is married to Claire, DeTamble takes extra care not to do anything that might change the course of events. Stirling's American time travellers have to find out what kind of timeline they are in. Recruits to Anderson's Time Patrol are told as part of their training.
(iii) Both HG Wells' The Time Machine and Anderson's There Will Be Time, the latter featuring Havig, describe events rushing past a time traveller.
Thus, we compare Anderson with Stirling, Niffenegger and Wells. Anderson's comprehensive treatment of both time travel paradoxes, causality violation and circular causality, makes his works a pivotal point of comparison with other time travel authors.
Now consider a time travel conundrum in Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates. I could have discussed this on the Logic of Time Travel blog but far fewer people would have read it there. In fact, I have tried to redirect readers from that blog to this one: see About Time Travel. We will find that issues raised by Powers have already been addressed in (i) or (ii) above.
Trapped inside a burning tent, Doctor Romany can escape only by jumping through time:
Sunday, 19 July 2026
"It's Not As Simple As That!"
Of course, a time traveller can at least temporarily duplicate himself by coexisting with his younger or older self (see A Case In Point) or maybe by initiating a divergent timeline containing an alternative version of himself.
That is enough about that, I think.
Identities
(i) If person A's brain duplicated the interactions in person B's brain, then A would think that he was B, complete with B's memories, motivations etc.
(ii) If an artificial neural network duplicated B's neuronic interactions, then that network would reproduce B's consciousness and sense of identity.
(iii) If some other technology exactly duplicated the effects of neuronic interactions, then that technology would generate self-conscious individuals maybe thinking that they were living on Earth in a particular historical period.
(i) happens in Tim Power's The Anubis Gates.
(ii) happens in Poul Anderson's Harvest Of Stars.
(iii) happens in Anderson's Genesis.
In The Anubis Gates, a character seeks immortality by repeatedly projecting his personality into someone else's body while at the same time displacing that person's personality into his own abandoned and soon-to-die body.
The idea that personalities can be generated and duplicated in these ways links these three novels.
Time Travel Scenarios
Meanwhile, SM Stirling's The Lords Of Creation, Volume III, The Lords Of Creation, should be en route via eBay. "Poul" and other sf writers have their says at the beginning of Volume I or II as far as I can remember without being able to check the text momentarily.
Contemporary fiction has a single premise: that the contemporary world exists as it does because history occurred as recorded. Sf varies its premises. Poul Anderson's Time Patrol would be unnecessary in The Anubis Gates. How would the Patrol respond to the events of SM Stirling's To Turn The Tide? As a matter of fact, in the Patrol timeline, there is not, as far as we know, any world-wide nuclear war in 2032. Therefore, the Patrol would prevent such a war from occurring and would also, of course, try to prevent any time travellers from changing history in the second century CE.
Good guys in one scenario are bad guys in another.
Saturday, 18 July 2026
Doyle And Ashbless
Three Other Time Travel Novels
Brendan Doyle, time traveller, knows that, on a particular day in 1810, the poet, William Ashbless, arrived in London where he entered the Jamaica Coffee House at 10:30 and then wrote his poem, "The Twelve Hours of the Night," while seated in the coffee house. Wanting to meet and befriend Ashbless, Doyle arrives in the coffee house on time. However, Ashbless does not show up so Doyle writes the poem from memory, then remains in the nineteenth century as Ashbless...
There is more to the story than that but I have summarized the paradox and am now going to bed. Life is busy here: Robin Hood (a version of) this evening; more authentic Vikings tomorrow. It is nearly midnight.
Street Life
Today, a group of Muslim men had come all the way from Birmingham to hand out free Korans on a street in Lancaster! They happened to stand right next to a group of left-wing newspaper sellers with whom they exchanged friendly greetings and literature.
Meanwhile, we reread Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates which presents nineteenth century London street life, involving both aristocrats and beggars although principally the latter.
All human life is here as it should be in all fiction and literature.
Take to the streets!
Two Surrenders
Friday, 17 July 2026
A Case In Point
In Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates, thief lords, banqueting in a subterranean grotto beneath nineteenth century London, are surrounded by shabby men and boys and, beyond them, derelicts who will fight for the left-overs afterwards. The Gypsy King, Doctor Romany, is furious when a very old and disfigured man laughs madly and mocks something that he, Romany, has just said.
Judgements About Empires And Options About Time Travel
SM Stirling's Draka are an evil empire in an alternative twentieth century. (They are "evil" in my judgement and in that of some other readers. The author will remind us of the view that all such judgements are subjective.)
The Antonine Roman Empire in Stirling's Make The Darkness Light series is a benign empire in an alternative second century. Thus, the Antonines present a formidable antithesis to the Draka.
Poul Anderson's Terran Empire is just another empire in a fictional future. It is perceived as benign or oppressive depending on the viewpoint of any particular character. Certainly, "The Game of Glory" shows the intelligence officer, Dominic Flandry, routinely participating in the conquest and oppression of the sovereign planet, Brae.
The arrival of two books interrupted our (editorially speaking) rereading of Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates. Again, the two time travel options: the past can be changed in Make The Darkness Light but not in The Anubis Gates. Poul Anderson is distinguished by the facts that he (i) addressed both options and (ii) addressed both well.
Thoughts And Connotations
Imagine: a sensitive recording, computing and communicational device which detects and records electromagnetic radiations, sounds, other vibrations, chemical compositions, nuclear reactions, gravitational waves etc, computes and calculates about these inputs and communicates with other such devices. Imagine further that this device randomly replays previous recordings, computations and communications and continually interrupts its own operations with further random and disjointed repetitions. If we add the single extra mysterious ingredient of consciousness, then this device becomes a superior human brain albeit with a very enhanced sensory apparatus.
What has gone wrong with the device to cause these constant replays? Well, we have been not artificially devised but naturally selected and therefore are primarily motivated not just to record and assess data but also to preserve, promote and gratify self. This motivation generates many additional mental processes, including regrets, recriminations, apprehensions, anticipations etc.
This has consequences for both life and fiction.
First, some of us meditate, i.e., practice awareness of our own incessant and involuntary thought processes, not from narcissism but in an attempt to gain some handle on what is going on.
Secondly, a chapter or a narrative passage in a novel can locate a character in a particular time and place but can then mainly comprise that character's thoughts and reflections. This can inform readers either about the character or about his knowledge of the background situation without necessarily advancing the action of the novel. Thus, on pp. 317-324 of SM Stirling's The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER NINETEEN, the Chinese agent, Black Jade, hears her superior, Colonel Liu, conversing with Kushan aristocrats and, at the end of p. 324, we know that she is:
"...trying to decide to do..." (p. 324)
- something!
We guess, correctly as it turns out, that the something is defection to the Americans and here we must divest this word, "Americans," of its connotations. In this context, "Americans" means not White House, State Department, Pentagon, CIA, aircraft carriers, military bases or boots on the ground. It means only five individuals of very high expertise and very good intentions.
Both the Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius, and his chief advisor, the American, Artorius:
Thursday, 16 July 2026
Slaughters
SM Stirling is a master of descriptions of military slaughters - which is why we re-use the attached cover illustration and indeed have found a clearer image of it.
Romans hit Parthians with extratemporal weapons supplied by time travellers. Sometimes, I summarize such accounts. This time, I just advise blog readers to read or reread this chapter - which I would also have done in any case, of course.
Marcus Aurelius and the time travellers really are aiming at a genuine Pax Romana, not just a brutally imposed pacification, and this does seem to be the only way to do it. I am interested not just in descriptions of exploded equine and human bodies but also in where all this is going. This is a major divergent timeline and potentially a long sf series.
Same basic premise as Poul Anderson's Time Patrol series - that the past can be changed - but a completely different development of it.
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
60
forty-three instalments, ranging from short stories to long novels;
twelve introductions and one afterword in The Earth Book Of Stormgate;
one original introduction in Trader To The Stars and three more in The Trouble Twisters.
Total: 60.
We might also count the fictional introduction to "The Star Plunderer" although that definitely accompanied the story when originally published as opposed to being added when the story was collected.
These additional passages are short but they impart information and enhance the series so they count.
What was a good series in any case becomes even better with these additions.
Wednesday, 15 July 2026
Wings
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER SEVENTEEN.
"The cavalry was on the flanks, which was why cavalry regiments were called alae, 'wings,' in Latin." (p. 258)
Hence also, Alatanism in Poul Anderson's Technic History and "wingers" in football. Appropriately, England has just lost the Football World Cup Semi-Final to Argentina. We have been surrounded by St George's flags for weeks, some sporting, others political.
How do we like the cover illustration of an armed Diomedean in flight?
It is taking a while for SM Stirling's American time travellers to enter into conflict with their Chinese antagonists. First, there is a war with the Parthians which is what brought the alae into the text.
Another end to the day with other activities and maybe some blogging expected tomoz.
Fair winds forever. High is heaven and holy.
Misreading And Pronouns
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER FIFTEEN.
The viewpoint character of this chapter is consistently Mark Findelmann, one of the five American time travellers. When a paragraph ends:
"He peered gratefully in that direction." (p. 229)
- the pronoun that is the subject of this sentence refers unequivocally to Mark. However, next, because of an interruption to my reading and also because of my misreading of pronouns, I went completely wrong. The text continues:
The Two Future Histories
In the former, certain groups try - unsuccessfully - to direct the course of society. The main factors that they are unable to cope with are the effects of technological unemployment and political movements motivated by antiscientific worldviews. By contrast, in Anderson's second future history, Technic civilization and its first political form, the Solar Commonwealth, merely emerge from the Chaos. No one is trying to control the course of events. However, this new post-Western civilization then becomes subject to recurrent historical cycles later studied by Chunderban Desai.
Desai, studying history and detecting patterns, contrasts sharply with Valti, applying equations to make specific predictions.
Anderson's works are richer for including both of these future history series although we can, of course, rightly say that the second is better than the first.
Social SF
The common sub-genre comprises those works, sometimes "utopian," addressing the question: how to change society with the help of science? CS Lewis parodies this question in his Ransom Trilogy, Volume III, That Hideous Strength, where his scientific social reformers are literally demonically controlled.
I see this as the central dynamic of twentieth century sf: Wells and Stapledon opposed by Lewis but followed by Heinlein, Anderson, Blish etc with Anderson and Blish addressing theological questions. Lewis wrote The Problem Of Pain and Anderson wrote "The Problem of Pain." Lewis describes the sinless planet, Perelandra (Venus) and Blish describes the sinless planet, Lithia (extra-solar). And so on.
In the Psychotechnic History, the question is: how does the world reconstruct after a limited nuclear exchange?
UN world government, becoming the Solar Union.
A secret service led by the fanatically anti-nationalist Fourre.
Un-men and the cloned Rostomily Brotherhood.
Suppression of conspiracies by nationalists and other turn-back-the-clock merchants.
Centralized agriculture.
Massive single-structure urban residential complexes.
Colonies under the sea and on other planets.
The work of the Psychotechnic Institute both in a predictive science of society (impossible but this sf) and in human psychophysiology.
Everything fails! But there are psychotechnicians in a peaceful Galactic civilization millennia later.
Outcomes II
Poul Anderson's "The Chapter Ends" is set in a remote future when there is a Galactic civilization that has been preceded by a long history involving a "First," and by implication at least one other interstellar, "Empire." See Missing Empires. This is entirely at odds with the Stellar Union and its (un-imperialistic) Coordination Service that had featured in earlier instalments of Anderson's Psychotechnic History. On the other hand, that Union had flown apart to be followed by the Third Dark Ages which could certainly have brought forth empires.
From Earth, the Galactic civilization is beyond Sagittarius. Interstellar civilization had been moving in that direction earlier in the series. (See Sagittarius.) The term, "integrator/Integrator" connects the two periods. (See Chronological Questions II.) Also, the Galactic civilization is ruled/managed/coordinated/whatever by psychotechnicians which seems like a culmination of this particular future history series.
Finally, the Psychotechnic History was collected with "The Chapter Ends" at the end of its concluding volume with Anderson's knowledge.
Tuesday, 14 July 2026
Dreams Or Nightmares
I had hoped that making this image of the opening page of "The Troublemakers" extra large would make it legible but it has not.
I was impressed when I had compared Poul Anderson's first two future histories and his Time Patrol series with SM Stirling's new time travel series in terms of their accounts of outcomes after different kinds of catastrophes: four works of imaginative fiction all relevant to our experience of the early twenty-first century.
Something to dream or have nightmares about. Good night.
Outcomes
In Anderson's Technic History, the Chaos is followed by Technic civilization and the hyperdrive and eventually there is a peaceful interstellar civilization in another spiral arm of the galaxy.
In Anderson's Time Patrol series, the Patrol guards future millennia of continued conflicts and wars before an Era of Oneness and the evolution of human beings into Danellians.
In SM Stirling's Make The Darkness Light series, a nuclear war in 2032 is followed, in a second temporal dimension, by industrial revolutions in the Roman and Han Empires.
Are we living in a Chaos? Yes. Is a nuclear war possible? Yes, as long as nuclear weapons exist. Is a positive outcome possible? I think that it has to be possible because we do not know what will happen. At least we have to work towards something better - and probably without the help either of a hyperdrive or of time travel.
Future Historical Details
A Realistic Assessment
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER THIRTEEN.
Fortunately, Artorius is able to assess the Chinese temporal expedition realistically from the outset.
(i) He knows what the Chinese regime was/would have been like in 2032. (In 2026, China is expanding economically, not militarily, but what will happen in the next six years?)
(ii) Now the early nuclear strike on Vienna makes sense. The Chinese had stolen Fuchs' temporal displacement process and were trying to forestall a Western temporal expedition.
(iii) It is reported that a member of the Chinese expedition killed a man by shooting him in the head.
The Romans have no alternative but to go to a war footing. It is the kind of thing that we expect although we still hope to see the Chinese secret police chief defeated and progress resumed.
The Blind Man
From a blog perspective, we appreciate SM Stirling as a current worthy successor of Anderson. Compare and contrast Time Patrol and Make The Darkness Light. Hence some recent and upcoming posts.
Some people say, "I like sf," and then turn out to mean TV and films. I was in an sf shop that sold only media-related items, models, Star Wars novelizations etc. No Wells or Anderson.
Oh, well. Subcultures should flourish, of course.
Monday, 13 July 2026
A Well-Controlled POV
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER THIRTEEN, pp. 173-202.
This long chapter opens:
"Galenos looked around the dinner table..." (p. 173)
At least for the time being, Galen is the pov character. The dinner conversation and Galen's thoughts impart information to the reader rather than advance the plot.
Near the top of p. 185:
"...Galenos thought."
He is still, consistently, the pov character. With dinner concluded and with those who do not "need to know" having withdrawn, Galen begins to convey a message from the Emperor to the three Americans who are present and to their single other confidante on the most important matter (time travel), Josephus. There is a double space between paragraphs...
After the space and with the message delivered, the leading American, Artorius/Arthur, not only slams his fist down but also sees that Galen is observing their reactions. Thus, the pov has shifted from Galen to Artorius. (I notice all this because I am a pov cop.)
The narrative must shift from imparting general information to delineating how the Americans respond to the devastating news that they are not the only time travellers in 170 CE and that is more than I can cope with this evening. Sorry to build up to a climax, then trickle to bed.
Cultural References
The Winds Of Fate.
A senator thinks that his client has a:
Time And Times
First, characters can travel from one time to another and that does happen once both in SM Stirling's To Turn the Tide and in its sequel, The Winds Of Fate: Americans from 2032 to 165 in the first book; then Chinese from 2032 to 165 in the second.
Secondly, characters from one time can spend a lot of time in another time. That is mainly what happens in both books.
Except of course that both sets of characters, the Americans and the Chinese, are, from the moment of their arrival, in a divergent timeline, therefore not in the past of their original timeline, therefore, in my opinion, not really in a different time. However, the object of the exercise is to find out what kinds of changes they can make and that is fascinating. Stirling is thorough about technological, economic and social changes. The Americans are helped both by good preparation and by good luck. (Favoured by Fortuna.)
When the two groups learn of each other's presence, they should be able to pool their resources and change the world even more quickly than they have been doing already. Except that the Chinese plan was that China would expand across the world, preventing the nuclear war from which they had fled by making the world a single state. And the Chinese leader, Colonel Liu, regards the Americans as an obstacle! In other words, he will reintroduce the kind of conflict that had led to nuclear war in the original timeline.
Can he be so short-sighted? Yes, with his upbringing and culture, he can. This is not an inevitable, but it is an all too plausible, outcome. What will happen next? We are in the hands of the author and of the gods.
Sunday, 12 July 2026
Genetics
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER TEN.
"He'd once read that as late as 1914 sons of English members of the House of Lords were a full five inches taller at eighteen than people from the bottom of the social pyramid...though they'd attributed it to genetics back in Edwardian England, rather than nutrition." (p. 144)
Not being scientifically well informed, I had to check on whether they would have called it "genetics" back then but they would have. The term was coined in 1905.
The molecular basis of heredity was discovered in 1953. See also The Fiction/Science Fiction Interface. I remembered something relevant from Poul Anderson's There Will Be Time and was able to find it on the blog instead of having to go to the bookshelf upstairs.
That is as much as I can manage this evening. Tomorrow maybe: gym, Zen and booking a train journey to meet a Buddhist friend from Birmingham at a mid-way point next week.
An Alternative Future
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER FIVE.
Maybe this chapter concludes ironically?
General Fronto, who had been a bit disturbed and momentarily uneasy at the prospect of many slaves becoming wage workers, reflects that the Emperor Marcus Aurelius is:
Industrial Revolutions In Three Periods In Two Timelines
In Poul Anderson's "Lodestar," the new Supermetals company sells industrially valuable supermetals to already established companies in the Polesotechnic League.
In Anderson's "Starfog," the discoverers of the Cloud Universe cluster will sell abundant iron, gold, mercury, tungsten, bismuth, uranium and transuranics to civilizations in several spiral arms of the galaxy.
This progression has taken us from a large part of the Earth to a small part of the galaxy to a vaster volume of the galaxy. But it is the time travel scenario that we are reading currently. Alternative histories are a welcome addition to future histories.
Workers
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER FIVE.
It is decades since I read Spartacus. I remember that a Roman was shown around a perfume factory where the work-force were free wage earners. These strange, silent, industrious and diligent men disturbed a slave-owner as well they might.
Slaves labouring at the time traveller Artorius' new blast furnaces are offered:
"Cash and the prospect of manumission..." (p. 88)
- on an unprecedented scale. A Roman general thinks:
"A bit disturbing. Though I couldn't say why, exactly." (ibid.)
We know why. A mass working class is about to enter history centuries ahead of schedule. The general dismisses "...his momentary unease..." (ibid.) because he is delighted at the prospect of increased productivity.
Workers no longer making iron by the old methods can grow more food or make other things. Artorius even envisages:
"'...many works bidding against each other for contracts.'" (p. 90)
A social revolution is under way with unpredictable consequences - although time travellers have some notion of some of the consequences.
Saturday, 11 July 2026
Catching Up With References
Here are the Cro-Magnons:
Standard Practice
The Winds Of Fate, PROLOGUE.
An author can make something sound so authentic that we have to pause to reflect that he has invented it. Thus, when the Emperor Marcus Aurelius begins to address Roman soldiers, their standard response is to bellow:
"'ROMA! ROMA! ROMA!'" (p. 16)
How do we know this? It was taken so much for granted that no one wrote it down or, if anyone did write it down, then that written record has not survived. So, again, how do we know? We don't. But American time traveller, Arthur Vandenberg/Artorius, finds out when he is with Marcus Aurelius as the latter begins to address the troops. For a moment, we accept that this is genuine. Then we realize that SM Stirling cannot have known it either so he has had to make it up - but very plausibly.
In "Delenda Est," Poul Anderson surmises that Cro-Magnons in the Pleistocene would have had the sense to wear protective clothing, including trousers, in snowy terrain.
Sf authors have to think of the logical consequences of their premises, not just share and reinforce their readers' (usual) lack of imagination!
Merchants And Languages
The Winds Of Fate, CHAPTER THREE.
"Josephus spoke Greek and Latin and Aramaic and three other languages well, and several more passably. He knew his uncle outdid him there. For a merchant it was a valuable skill, even if you could get by in Latin and Greek in most of the Empire, in the cities and larger towns at least and as far as bargaining was concerned." (pp. 48-49)
Although I am not a merchant, I continually regret my incompetence in any language but English.
How many languages does Poul Anderson's interstellar merchant, Nicholas van Rijn, speak, whether well or badly? I think that we are told this in Satan's World. However, Sheila's and my adult granddaughter, Yossi, is currently staying in the room where the books are shelved so I do not have easy access but blog readers should be able to answer a question about van Rijn.
I am sheltering from the heat wave, listening to a report on the Iran War and concurrently reading two other works that provide blog material.
As John Carter said, "We still live." (I think he said "I" but "We" is better.)