Wednesday, 20 May 2020

All We Need Of Hell II

See All We Need Of Hell.

Mike Carey's Lucifer, No. 75, (see image) is entitled "All We Need Of Hell," a quotation from Emily Dickinson.

In Poul Anderson's Operation Chaos, XXX:

God reigns in Heaven;

His Adversary's "home territory" (p. 242) is hell;

"hell" is also described as a low entropy universe whose denizens were mistakenly regarded as supernatural in the past. (See Alternative Demonologies.)

So are we talking about two different meanings of "hell" here?

5 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I'm puzzled by this blog piece of yours. I understand the hell we see in OPERATION CHAOS as a science fictional/fantasy version of the Christian view of hell: a place of horror, rage, hate, rejection of life and of everything that is good.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

But is the Adversary a fallen angel accompanied by other fallen angels in a supernatural state called "Hell"? We have been told that the denizens of the "hell universe" are not demons in this sense but have been MISTAKENLY regarded as supernatural. They are embodied beings that can be killed. So are we talking about two different meanings of "hell" here?

Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

My view is that Anderson meant the Adversary to be precisely that, a fallen angel. And I now wonder if we should think of there being two classes or kinds of demons in the OPERATION CHAOS timeline: supernatural beings like fallen angels and embodied, lesser demons.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Exactly.But the embodied demons are born bad. They have not Fallen.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

A good point, you may have found a weak point in Anderson's book. But, aside from the case of the afreet, we don't know if those other lesser demons were born or hatched. Or how they became evil.

Ad astra! Sean