Thursday 7 June 2018

Jack Havig's Pamphlet

In 1951, Jack Havig has a mimeographed pamphlet which is described on its first page as "Copyright 1970 by John F. Havig." On the face of it, futuristic fiction except that we, reading Poul Anderson's There Will Be Time, copyright 1973, recognize Havig's text as a satire of radical politics in the 1960s and 1970. Havig's "WITHIT'S COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY" comprises Chapter III of There Will Be Time (New York, 1973), pp. 27-32.

I have to accept that the "Dictionary" is satirical of some people in the US forty eight years ago. Thus, my present response comes from a different angle. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, Havig's satirical definition of "Fascist" is:

"A person who favors measures possibly conducive to the survival of the West." (p. 29)

I have to accept that the word "fascist" has been overused and misused. Thus, I had to point out in discussion or argument that Margaret Thatcher won three General Elections and did not ban all other political parties, arrest their leaders or burn down Parliament. Therefore, she was a Parliamentarian and a Conservative, not a fascist. "Fascist" cannot just mean anyone whom we dislike. However, it does apply to some current political organizations in Europe and Britain that are violently xenophobic and that include anti-democrats and Hitlerites. See the attached image of some Welsh Defence League members.

In Britain right now: on Friday, one such group marched in Leeds; on Tuesday, a mosque and a gurdwara were attacked in Leeds. Fascists are here and anti-fascists counter-demonstrate.

3 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I'm not happy with how the word "fascist" is used. It's certainly not being used in ways MUSSOLINI would recognize! To me, REAL fascism is a mix of socialism with nationalism, which is how Mussolini meant it.

I frankly and STRONGLY dislike Islam and I believe many, NOT all, Muslims are hostile to Western ideas of liberty or freedom and want to impose a Sharia theocracy on the UK, the US, and the entire world. What some call "Islamo-fascists." But that does not justify random violence against mosques and chance met Muslims. Such violence need to be SUPPRESSED.

And the Welsh Defence League is a new one to me!

Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

Andrea has made me aware of "fascism" as meaning support for Mussolini's Party while it remained electoralist and before Musso became "Il Duce" of a one-party state. But he, Mussolini, continued to use the word "Fascist" after that.

The word "fascist" has come to be applied to violent, anti-democratic, sometimes racist, politics. As long as it continues to be used in that way, the meaning should be targeted at such groups only and should not be extended to mean anyone who is conservative or pro-capitalist.

If that second use of "fascist" were to be challenged, then I think that the only remaining word that could be used would be "Nazi."

Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

It comes down to being frustratingly difficult to find really satisfactory terms for various groups and persons.

And it would have been better for Italy and Mussolini himself if he had been content to seek power by lawful and non-dictatorial means. That said, he was nowhere as grim and merciless as Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler.

Sean