Saturday, 25 July 2026

World Con, '62

Poul Anderson is a minor character in SM Stirling's Lords Of Creation series. We will come back to that. 

No wonder I could not remember whether:

"World Science Fiction Convention
"Chicago, Earth
"Labor Day, 1962"

- was in Lords Of Creation, Volume I, The Sky People, or in Volume II, In The Courts Of The Crimson Kings. It is at the end of Vol. I as a preview and at the beginning of Vol. II as the PROLOGUE (although maybe not still present as a preview in later editions of Vol. I?). 

We are still rereading The Sky People, rediscovering obscure ERBian references like "Vepaja," but have skipped ahead to the preview.

If you read this preview/PROLOGUE, then read the Wikipedia account of the 1962 World Con, then you will find that Stirling has got the names of Con attendees and even of the Guest of Honour right.

In Stirling's alternative historical Con, sf authors say a lot of things relevant to their works and this could lead to a detailed post on my Science Fiction blog. In fact, it probably will lead to something on that blog but, for present purposes, we will confine ourselves to "Poul" and to "the editor of Astounding." (Later: See Mars Books.)

While the authors watch transmissions from a Martian lander, Poul:

had brought in a case of Tuborg and is described as a postwar Young Turk (The Sky People, p. 314);

addresses "Arthur" on p. 315;

grumbles that the Viking horns worn by fans were not historical on p. 316;

comments on Martian sea level and highland air on p. 317;

is said to like messing about with boats and to murmur about pointing into the wind on p. 319;

guffaws that the Martians have put the lander in a sack when the screen goes dark after a tarpaulin has been thrown on p. 322.

The Astounding editor insists that Terrestrials are the most advanced Solar species on p. 319. This was a disagreement with Asimov.

Campbell:

edited Heinlein's Future History, Asimov's Foundation and Robots, Blish's Okies and Anderson's Nicholas van Rijn;

published Heinlein's Time Chart;

made suggestions that affected Foundation, Okies and the Technic History.

In the case of the Technic History, Campbell's suggestions were the ideas that became the Ythrians and Mirkheim.

7 comments:

S.M. Stirling said...

Doing that scene was a lot of fun!

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

That's obvious!

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I reread your Prologue for IN THE COURTS OF THE CRIMSON KINGS--and it was fun reading! I've made some notes listing the characters I recognized.

Poul Anderson
Isaac Asimov
Leigh Brackett
John Campbell
Arthur C, Clarke (not yet knighted)
L. Sprague De Camp and his wife Catherine
Robert A. Heinlein and his wife Virginia
Larry Niven
H. Beam Piper
Fred Pohl?
Ted Sturgeon
Jack Williamson

The query mark next to "Fred Pohl" was because I'm not entirely sure of his identity. And was "Frank" Eric Frank Russell? And who was the man who described the hominins of Mars as "Bilaterally symmetrical bipeds"? And was that young friend of H. Beam Piper none other than Jerry Pournelle?

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Definitely Frederik Pohl.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

Then my hesitation about "Fred Pohl" was unnecessary.

Thanks! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Yeah and that's the younger Pournelle, too. There were a lot of bright minds at that convention!

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

It was that mention of "Boeing" that made me think of Pournelle.

Alas, H. Beam Piper was soon to die by suicide, due to prematurely and mistakenly thinking his stories were being rejected by editors.

Frank Herbert was also at Worldcon '62, but he had yet to make his mark as an SF writer, DUNE not being pub. until 1965.

Ad astra! Sean