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Monday, 15 September 2025

Havig Versus Wallis III

There Will Be Time.

See:

Havig Versus Wallis and Havig Versus Wallis II, both here. (Scroll down.)

We, editorially speaking, find that we have already summarized this part of the novel in more detail than we would have thought possible! No need to do it again. 

In Poul Anderson's Time Patrol series, the Patrol fights Neldorians, Exaltationists, other time criminals and even temporal chaos itself throughout history.

In Anderson's The Corridors Of Time, Wardens and Rangers wage war throughout history, hoping to influence their common unknown future.

In There Will Be Time, Havig's group must outmaneuver Wallis' Eyrie while remaining within the bounds of what is already known about future, and also some past, events. Enough remains unknown to allow them sufficient freedom of action. 

Monday, 11 June 2018

Havig Versus Wallis

This is a war of the generalist twentieth century against the parochial nineteenth. Wallis' men waste lifespan casting back and forth to find a target moment whereas Havig pays a company to invent an instrument, the chronolog, for this purpose. Wallis' men find obvious time travelers on occasions like the day of the Crucifixion, then quit, whereas Havig secretly but systematically recruits from the entire human race. On that day in Jerusalem, he thinks of walking through the streets singing lines from the Mass - in Tim Powers' The Anubis Gates, a time traveler whistles Yesterday in London long before Paul McCartney.

Nineteenth century men who influenced twentieth century thinking more than that of their contemporaries include Clerk Maxwell, Babbage, Peirce, Ricardo and Clausewitz. Their thought helps Havigs'. No links this time but please google.

Havig Versus Wallis II

("Broadway in the Nineteenth Century" by Augustus Kollner.)

A nineteenth century man who sees the twentieth as decadent and all other cultures as inferior can neither learn nor compete.

Anderson acknowledges:

"There are modern ways to get a new language into a mind fast. There are ancient ways, which the West has neglected, for developing body and senses."
-Poul Anderson, There Will Be Time (New York, 1973), XIV, p. 155.

This plus the contemplative Phase Three civilization (see Reconnoitering The Future) help to counteract Anderson's putdown of Asian mysticism. See Mysticism And Science. The Havig group's training seems to rival that of the Time Patrol.

Possible Recruits
A shaman, witch or monk who performs helpful miracles.
A peasant whose crops are never hit by bad weather.
A merchant with always lucky investments.
A never caught spy or scout.
A boy who advises his father.

Havig and Leonce spend ten years of lifespan building their group.