Friday 9 March 2018

Entropy And The Emberverse

In the false philosophy that Aycharaych propagates on Aeneas, there is a cosmic conflict between the Elders who seek to transcend entropy and the Others who embrace it. See Philosophy II. On the level of human beings and other sophonts, this conflict becomes, e.g., the Aenean resistance movement versus the Terran Empire. Thus, there is physical violence and military conflict not between the trans-intelligent Elders and Others but between their intelligent agents. Human beings and other rational species are like blood cells in a body whose mind experiences conflict between contradictory world-views or between reason and emotion. Does this sound familiar?

In SM Stirling's Emberverse, a trans-cosmic Mind splits into gods and demons who wage war through their human agents on Earth. Do the Emberversers inhabit a real life equivalent of Aycharaych's elaborate fiction?

3 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

It seems odd of the Aenean resistance movement to cast the Terran Empire as serving entropy, serving the "Others" who desire the end of all things. My view is that the Empire was an attempt at opposing and resisting entropy, trying to preserve some kind of order at least for a time.

Yes, the dominant POV in the Empire descended from Christianity and the Greek philosophers (from which a true science eventually emerged). Such a mindset would be extremely skeptical of notions about merging with the "Allness."

Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Ah, you noticed! Yes, that was definitely (one) source of inspiration. Though the concept goes way back, of course.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

And of course Mr. Stirling's "transcosmic mind" splitting into gods and demons is also a fiction. One I'm still chagrined to have missed the first time I read thru his Change books.

Truth to say I found Aycharaych's fiction more plausible in one sense than that of Stirling's. For the sake of his story Stirling was hypothesizing a transcosmic mind which actually existed and which split into "gods" and "demons." Because I don't believe in THIS kind of transcosmic mind. By contrast Aycharaych's Elders and Others was a pure fiction, something meant to deceive.

Sean