Monday 21 August 2023

Consciousness

Having initiated a philosophical discussion here, I am loth to let it go immediately. These issues are relevant to a lot of literature, fiction, sf and fantasy even though we have, for the time being, moved away from the particular text that we started with.

I think that the following propositions are at least reasonable and are backed up by a lot of evidence. First, naturally occurring consciousness is a property of organisms with central nervous systems. Thus, consciousness is generated not by mere complexity but by a particular kind of sensitivity and complexity in some organisms. These organisms have made the transition from needing sustenance to feeling hunger or from becoming dangerously hot to feeling painfully hot.

Secondly, when such an organism ceases to function, its neurons no longer fire or interact. The former organism, now decaying into inanimate matter, no longer experiences, thinks or dreams. Its properties are now merely physical and chemical but no longer biological or psychological. Its consciousness has ceased to exist just as the content of a single-copy private journal ceases to exist if the journal is burned to ashes.

Of course, we can imagine ways in which our memories and identity might be reproduced elsewhere after our deaths or indeed even while we are still alive.

See:

Minds and Brains

Dead Men (Tell Tall Tales)

6 comments:

S.M. Stirling said...

Yes, a constantly updated backup system would be a materialist version of an afterlife.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

And we see Anderson examining such ideas in the HARVEST OF STARS books and GENESIS. Albeit I'm skeptical of it being possible to "copy" human beings like that.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: I think it's undoubtedly -possible-, but not nearly -achievable- with any technology we have now or are likely to have in the next few generations.

Remember though, it was only a century between Kitty Hawk and SpaceX.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I agree anything might be possible, including some things I consider very unlikely. But what I would really, really like to see soon is the invention of a working FTL drive. I know, fat chance!!!

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: not completely impossible. There are hints on the fringes of physics, I understand.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

And I am glad of those hints about the theoretical possibility of a
FTL drive. Making it an engineering practicality, alas, may be a very different story!

Ad astra! Sean