Monday 14 January 2019

Reread And Banned Books

I regard every work by Poul Anderson as worth multiple readings. Star Prince Charlie (with Gordon R. Dickson) and For Love And Glory are two works acquired comparatively recently and so far read only once. Both should be reread. We know from experience that, even when the prospect of rereading a particular work remains unappealing, the text itself always yields much to discuss. We have recently demonstrated this with The Winter Of The World, Vault Of The Ages and The High Crusade.

I have reread and re-posted about SM Stirling's The Peshawar Lancers and Conquistador. I may or may not reread his Change series. If not, then my current reading of the concluding volume, The Sky-Blue Wolves, will be my last encounter ever with the politics of the High Kingdom of Montival and its Chancellor, Father Ignatius. That would be quite a thing.

Ignatius proposes banning a book. The High Queen thinks that, under the Great Charter, she cannot ban books; however, the Cardinal-Archbishop can put this one on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum locally and petition the Pope to do so universally. The Wiccan High Priestess says, perfectly reasonably, that her people, the Mackenzies, do not hold with banning any kind of book. However, the work in question is indeed some sort of supernatural threat in the Changed world, e.g., we might suspend freedom of speech if we knew for certain that a particular speaker was not just a persuasive propagandist but a powerful and malign hypnotist.

In James Blish's A Case Of Conscience, Finnegans Wake is on the Index and a Jesuit character has access to it only because of his Order. Was the Wake banned and did anyone take such prohibitions seriously?

8 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

While I am inclined to think SOME books deserved to be banned, I have my doubts that a formal, official banning does any good. People might get curious, simply because a book was banned, and hunt it up. And, in the Changed world, THE KING IN YELLOW might actually NEED to be banned. If I was High Queen Matilda I would very quietly buy up all known copies of THE KING IN YELLOW and personally burn them. And say nothing about it. If only two or three copies of that work was known to be in Montival, that should mostly eliminate the danger posed by THE KING IN YELLOW. And have trusted agents outside Montival track down copies of that book and burn them.

Seam

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,
Do you know if Blish got it right that FINNEGANS WAKE was on the Index, meaning that Catholics were not allowed to read it?
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I've been trying to find out if FINNEGAN'S WAKE was ever included in the INDEX LIBRORUM PROHIBITORUM, but so far I've not found that work of Joyce in the INDEX. Nor does the Wikipedia article on FINNEGAN'S WAKE mentions it as ever being placed on the Index. My conclusion is that Blish had Joyce's book on the Index in A CASE OF CONSCIENCE simply for the purposes of his novel.

While skimming thru the list of tiles in the Index I noticed that most of them were plainly books having to do with theology and/or morality. I seriously doubt Joyce's rather notoriously difficult to read novel was ever on the Index.

Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,
What do you think about the burning of Giordano Bruno?
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Giordano Bruno, from what I read about him, was criticized by both Protestants and Catholics. But, however irritating and unlikable, it was wrong to have burned him. would note that he was six or seven years in the hands of the Venetian and Roman Inquisitions before Bruno was sentenced to death. Which means there must have been many attempts at persuading him to recant of his errors (such as pantheism).

Sean

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

As a master of positive Church law, the INDEX LIBRORUM PROHIBITORUM no longer has penalties imposed on Catholics who read books on the Index without first getting authorization to do so. But, it still retains "moral force." That is, Christians are morally required to avoid books injurious to either faith or morals.

An INDEX OF CRITICIZED BOOKS might be more practical. That is, a listing of books which has been authoritatively criticized as injurious to faith and morals. With brief explanations of the major errors in those books. And I would see no need to impose ecclesiastical penalties on persons who read books in this kind of Index.

Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,
According to Wiki, Cardinal Sodano said that the Inquisitors did everything possible to save Bruno's life. No, they got him killed. I think that "...it was wrong to have burned him..." is not a strong enough response. "...many attempts at persuading him to recant his errors..." sounds as if the eventual outcome was his fault because he stubbornly refused to recant his errors. When I disagree with someone philosophically, I do not say, "Now please recant your errors." The fact that he was also criticized by Protestants (other Christians) is no mitigating factor either. I think that we need a very strong condemnation of all regimes that torture and murder those who disagree with them.
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

And I agree with you and I thought I was saying so! At the same time, however, there are going to be people, at different times or periods, not all of them men acting in bad faith, would passionately disagree with us. Even tho I would insist they were the ones who were wrong.

Sean