Monday, 1 December 2025

Anglii And Edh

"Star of the Sea," 12, A.D. 43.

The Anglii hold a great annual market (p. 572) but we must remember that the Anglii are not yet in England. Earlier in his Time Patrol career, Everard had been in Britain:

"...when the English were moving in."
-Poul Anderson, "Time Patrol" IN Anderson, Time Patrol (Riverdale, NY, December 2010), pp. 1-53 AT 4, p. 29.

That was in 464 AD.

Edh who will be Veleda already seems to be part of her goddess's sea environment:

"Edh was a dwindled bit of fluttering darkness, half lost in the sea mist, into which she drifted onward. Wrapped in her dreams or nightmares, or whatever they were..." (p. 578)

Dreams and nightmares. A potential religious foundress unknown to history. How many are there?

8 comments:

S.M. Stirling said...

You have to be charismatic and convincing, and you have to be telling people what they want to hear.

Eg., during the 3rd century crisis in the Roman Empire, you can tell people that things will be much better after they die if they conform to your new cult.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Charism and conviction need to be applied to realizable goals.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

And "realizable" need not mean "acceptable to the current powers that be"!

S.M. Stirling said...

Paul: no, but it has to be acceptable to the audience.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Yes.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I agree.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

BTW, about the Anglii -- recent DNA research has shown that the Anglo-Saxon migration to Britain was a mass migration of both sexes. 75% replacement of local DNA along the east coast, down to around 45% on the borders of Wales and Cornwall.

That's not as complete as the Beaker Culture (from what's now the Netherlands) in 2500 BCE, which produced a 93% genetic turnover. But it's pretty big.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

And such a mass invasion, as distinct from a raid, was only possible because of a complete collapse of Roman governance and defenses. Only thus could women and children have accompanied the Anglii warriors. The Romano-Britons, in the territories seized by the Anglii, were massacred, enslaved, or fled.

Ad astra! Sean