In the former, Chunderban Desai converses with:
Tuesday, 30 June 2026
Favourite Chapters And Stories
Present And Future Cities
Connections
Galactic Civilizations And Global Conflicts
Andrea usually says something blog-relevant. He knows of an sf TV series with the premise that there is about one technological civilization in every twenty or so galaxies but some of them have FTL (faster-than-light space travel).
Observations:
the FTL must be very F if there is regular intergalactic travel;
are they taking any steps to populate the galaxies?;
Poul Anderson would be able to take that premise and write prose fiction set in that universe;
I am inclined to accept the scarcity of technological civilizations but not FTL.
Andrea's other contribution today: although nothing much is changing internationally right now, we are heading for a major conflict and indeed are already in the first stage of World War III although it is not yet recognized as such - it took a while for 1939-'45 to become a global conflict.
Are we the only intelligences in a vast volume of space and also about to destroy ourselves?
Poul Anderson wrote a few short dystopias.
Monday, 29 June 2026
Aycharaych Before Or After
Aycharaych's subsequent life would have had to involve some reflection on his earlier career and on the history of Chereion. I still think that a meeting with that student of Ancient artefacts, Axor, would be one possibility although not through the agency of Terran Intelligence.
I cannot imagine sequels. My brain conjures only absurdities, e.g., Aycharaych fleeing outside known space and finding Nicholas van Rijn in suspended animation, which Anderson definitely would not have written. Poul Anderson combined creative imagination with historical plausibility. Although he never showed us the death of any major character, it is a given that such characters are long dead in later periods when others come forward:
Emperors And Philosophy
Fiction dramatizes the philosophical mind-body question although usually we do not notice this because usually we do not philosophize. In Poul Anderson's "The Problem of Pain," the first person narrator informs us that the planet Lucifer has long days - an objective fact - and also that he and his colleague had toiled, sweated, itched, stunk and become grimy and weary through one of those days - a subjective experience.
One objective condition, e.g., the application of heat to a liquid, causes another objective condition, the boiling of the liquid into steam. We observe both conditions. Another objective condition, a neural interaction, causes a subjective event, a sensation. In this case, we can observe the objective condition but not the subjective event. We know of the subjective event because we experience sensations and detect them in others. Someone winces when pricked with a pin. But we do not observe his sensation because that is subjective, not objective.
Philosophers enquire about the relationship between objectivity and subjectivity, two aspects of reality.
Sunday, 28 June 2026
What Happens Next?
The Day Of Their Return.
It is revealed that Jaan was a false prophet in a very real sense - technologically possessed by an agent of Merseia - and it is simultaneously announced that Ivar Frederiksen, heir to the Firstmanship of Ilion, who had tried to lead a rebellion, will now make his peace with the occupation forces of the Terran Empire. Will even these two devastating developments be enough to derail the movement for Aenean independence that we have seen gathering momentum throughout this novel? I would not think so. There will be further years of turmoil ahead and we need another novel especially Sector Alpha Crucis is close to the Domain of Ythri and we also want to know what has been happening on Avalon. Poul Anderson's Technic History needed to have been two or three times its finished length. JRR Tolkien said that The Lord Of The Rings was "too short" and I agree - although lengthy, it feels rushed - and the Technic History is definitely too short.
Spiritual Development II
The Day Of Their Return, 7.
Tatiana Thane, just before she mentions duty:
"'...[Cosmenosists] think reality is always growin' toward what is greater than itself...'" (pp. 129-130)
"...greater..." is mystically vague but she means intensifications or refinements of consciousness. So is reality always growing towards this? Well, no. What has happened so far?
There was an earliest moment with no earlier moments just as there are no points further north than the North Pole. At that earliest moment, condensed energy was released with natural forces that allowed for the emergence of a complex ordered universe rather than a random chaos. Were the forces "fine tuned"? Not by any intelligent being because intelligence had not emerged yet.
Energized complex molecules changed randomly until one became self-replicating, the first unicellular organism. Chemistry was not "growing toward" biology although presumably a random event would have happened some time. I understand that multicellular organisms are unlikely although they have evolved at least once. Consciousness was an accidental byproduct of natural selection. Organisms were selected for sensitivity. Pleasure and pain, if they were possible, would have survival value. Therefore, sensitivity quantitatively increased until it was qualitatively transformed into sensation.
Now that we are not only conscious but also self-conscious and intelligent, we can decide to work towards the goal of self-development but reality had not been growing towards such an outcome. There might be universes where some of the earlier random events like the fusion of two simple cells into a single complex cell allowing for the emergence of multicellular organisms did not happen.
Now that we are here, we can do something about it but we should not think that preconscious reality had had any inbuilt tendency to work towards us.
Spiritual Development
The Day Of Their Return, 7.
The previous post was cut short by a Sunday walk. What else did Tatiana say? That:
"'...first duty of those who stand highest is to help those lower -'" (p. 130)
That makes sense in her universe where intelligent species are as numerous as snowflakes but not in ours as yet. Ivar Frederiksen later makes the point that the evidence from all those known species indicates that natural selection develops intelligence only so far - and that does seem reasonable. However, spirituality is not just intelligence. It involves psychological and moral development, self-knowledge, insight and wisdom. Surely some species will be further developed spiritually and therefore able to help or guide others? In fact, from his theological perspective, Axor to ask why all those known species are "Fallen." Surely some at least should not have Fallen? Or was there just one cosmic Original Sin for everyone? That seems unlikely but the question only arises from a particular theological perspective. To me, it makes sense that instincts for self-preservation and species-propagation had survival value for conscious species but then became obstacles to spiritual development in intelligent species. Pleasure, pain and consciousness became not "sin" (Biblical terminology) but "greed, hate and delusion" (Buddhist terminology) and can be transmuted into their opposites: nonattachment, compassion and wisdom.
But Tatiana unreasonably expects the Builders to return and liberate everyone. We liberate ourselves.
Rumours On The Wind
The Day Of Their Return, 7.
Tatiana Thane looks to what she calls the transcendental, not the supernatural, and claims that her Cosmenosis is a philosophy, not a religion. These are words. In fact, with no evidence, she expects the Builders to return and heeds the rumours of a forerunner even though such rumours are, as she acknowledges:
"'...forever driftin' in on desert wind...'" (p. 130)
Of course that wind plays its role!
I would advise Tatiana: continue to practice science and meditation and don't listen to rumours! Consider what you know scientifically about the Builders/Elders/Ancients/Forerunners and their artefacts and go no further than that unless and until you find new evidence as Axor tries to do. He hopes to confirm an explicitly religious belief but Flandry is right to fund his research. Who knows what will turn up? I know the answer to that question: something completely unexpected.
Today is Sunday. Attend church and/or worship/contemplate in the temple of earth and sky.
Saturday, 27 June 2026
Wind In Gotham City
Places In Time
Places That Are Realized In Two Time Travel Works
Fictional Universes II
Hermes, important as the home planet both of David Falkayn and of Sandra Tamarin, remains off-stage until it becomes a major setting in Mirkheim and is again visited in A Stone In Heaven.
Avalon, is shown at four different stages of development in three short stories and one novel. Its notable locations include the Weathermother mountain range and the cities of Gray and Centauri, the latter containing Livewell Street named after a local flower.
Dennitza appears only in A Knight Of Ghosts And Shadows where, however, it imparts a real sense of place to the Kazan, the Obala and Zorkagrad.
Returning again to another author in another medium and genre, Alan Moore fully exploits the connotations and implications of the familiar place name, "Gotham City," before bringing on stage its most notorious inhabitant.
Fictional Universes
Anderson also familiarized himself enough with several other sf universes to be able to write stories set in those universes as summarized in the combox here. These included Asimov's Robots series. Anderson's story, "Plato's Cave," features the regular US Robots troubleshooters, Powell and Donovan, and also refers to Stephen Byerley who was running for Mayor somewhere in another story at that time - an excellent use of existing material.
These observations are occasioned by my appreciation of Alan Moore's transformations of multiple DC Comics characters, some universally known, others obscure, in his Swamp Thing series to which I will now return over a second mug of breakfast coffee. A normal Saturday in Lancaster stretches ahead.
Friday, 26 June 2026
New Instalments?
We fully accept that some kinds of fictional characters are written by multiple authors, e.g.:
Sexton Blake, 4000 stories by 200 authors in 5 media;
comic strip and TV characters.
Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman and Frank Miller have been able to re-create comic book characters and to write substantial graphic novels about previously inconsequential heroes and villains. A writer with such skills would be able to make new additions to a future history series that is already consequential but this is unlikely to happen.
Meanwhile, we appreciate how much a single author was able to put into the Technic History.
Important Or Unimportant?
Here is an intermediate position. Aycharaych, when it has not yet been disclosed that he himself is of the species known as "the Ancients," admires human variety:
Places On Planets
When someone travels across a planetary surface, there are places that they visit and other places that they know of but do not visit. Poul Anderson's fictional planets are complex enough for this to be the case. High Commissioner Desai leaves Imperial House to visit the University of Virgil but unfortunately does not also visit the industrial Web - at least not while we are watching him, which is what matters here.
Ivar Frederiksen travels with tinerans, then Riverfolk, to the Orcans but does not visit the Highlanders although Tatiana Thane concocts a ruse to use the Highlanders as a decoy to mislead the authorities hunting for Ivar.
In The Game Of Empire, Diana Crowfeather and her companions, while on Daedalus, travel along the Highroad River from Aurea to the Cynthian village of Lulach but, because of a change of plan, do not also visit the Donarrian settlement of Ghundrung, instead flying directly to the island of Zacharia.
Like real places.
On Aeneas
The Day Of Their Return, 3.
Some ironies:
While High Commissioner Desai is interviewing Aycharaych, he must pause to check the relevant data received from Sector HQ in Catawrayannis on Llynathawr. Desai politely asks Aycharaych whether he minds waiting for a few minutes. Of course not! As we later realize, this short wait gives the telepathic spy an even longer opportunity to scan the High Commissioner's surface thoughts. Even more so when Desai then invites Aycharaych to an early lunch and an extended conversation... The Chereionite's personal magnetism and charm are insidious. However, longer term, Desai remains on his guard and makes enquiries. But, by that time, Aycharaych, agent of Merseia, has vanished into the Aenean wilderness.
Nova Roma at night:
in Desai's office, blackness relieved only by glowboards and shifting Creusan moonlight;
outside and above, stars, moons, Milky Way and three planets;
elven city;
radiant shadowy houses;
dark dappled streets;
mercury river and canal;
afar, a ghostly desert dust storm;
cutting keening wind.
Is Aeneas the most detailed colony planet in the Technic History?
Its inhabitants:
Thursday, 25 June 2026
Many Mariuses
At one stage, Julius Caesar had to hide in a different place every night from the secret police of the dictator, Sulla, who, when he at last gave way to the eminent men who had pleaded Caesar's case, warned them:
Aycharaych And Axor
The Day Of Their Return, 3.
Aycharaych knows of the Chinese Taiping Rebellion and tells Desai:
"'The leaders were inspired by a militant form of Christianity - scarcely what Jesus had in mind, no?'" (p. 92)
We receive various data later in this novel, then in later novels:
Aycharych is a Chereionite;
the Chereionites were the Ancients;
Fr Axor will seek for evidence of the Universal Incarnation among inscriptions of the Ancients;
Aycharaych is probably killed when Flandry orders the bombardment of Chereion - but not necessarily;
if Aycharaych survives, then he will no longer have any reason to work for the Merseians and might even work against them;
Axor might stay in touch with the Terran Intelligence agent, Targovi.
And a speculative outcome of all that - Axor and Aycharaych meet and together research the Ancients, starting with whatever Aycharaych remembers of the immense base of knowledge that he had had (and that Flandry destroyed) on Chereion.
Desai Interacts With An AI And And An Alien
The Day Of Their Return, 3.
"'Send him in, please.' (By extending verbal courtesy even to a subunit of a computer, the High Commissioner helped maintain an amicable atmosphere. Perhaps.)" (p. 88)
I think that it was Kevin in the Gregson the other night who said that internet companies want users now not to waste time or energy on politeness to AI's. We really have come a long way technologically.
Desai asks for the alien, Aycharaych, to be sent in without the slightest idea of what he looks like and catches his breath when he sees him. Not to be xenophobic or anything but would you be happy to have an alien coming in without knowing what to expect? Of course, human beings have had a lot of contact with a lot of different kinds of aliens by Desai's time. But still.
The receptionist computer is programmed to mimic languages instantly and accurately which:
"...gratified visitors, especially nonhumans." (ibid.)
- although we can rely on Aycharaych not to give a damn. (Except that this is our first sight of him if we are reading the Technic History in chronological order.)
Tempora Mutantur
I remember my father's widowed mother and her sister and brother-in-law, then contemplate my daughter and granddaughter. The change in beliefs, values and life-styles is complete. Five generations. To my parents and grandparents, the difference between Catholic and Protestant was enormously important. My daughter has always understood that she lives among Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and secularists.
Fran once reflected, "The people with whom I do not speak the same language! Like my mother to whom it matters enormously whether I am a Catholic or a Protestant... And I am either a Catholic or a Protestant... or else an atheist... or else something very strange!" (I did not think that Fran was going to pop up here but he sure helps.)
Science fiction future histories and time travel stories should show such social changes and Poul Anderson does in the generation gap between Nicholas van Rijn and Coya Conyon and in a future doctor's comments on Carl Farness' sexual mores.
Anderson does it.
Details On Aeneas
Wednesday, 24 June 2026
Buffer Zone
One sentence in Poul Anderson's Technic History suggests a comparable spin-off:
Two More From Suetonius
Comparing Empires
Poul Anderson's Terran Empire reminds us of both the British and the Roman Empires.
British when Flandry drawls:
More From Rome
Tuesday, 23 June 2026
A Pivotal Technic History Story
If we read Poul Anderson's Technic History in chronological order of fictional events, then, by the time we reach "The Master Key," we know that Nicholas van Rijn has initiated his first trade pioneer crew led by David Falkayn although those characters are not mentioned here whereas other employees of van Rijn's Solar Spice & Liquors company are. This is the last Technic History instalment in which we see van Rijn unaccompanied by the members of that first trader team and it is also the last instalment before the no less than four instalments showing increasing problems for the Polesotechnic League:
Again Suetonius
Endings And New Beginnings
To Turn The Tide.
The novel climaxes with vastatio (devastation) and slaughter to be followed, according to Marcus Aurelius, by:
Monday, 22 June 2026
Into The Past
I can't help it. I do prefer time travel that is into a single immutable past. Anything else is not travel into our past, is it?
Three pure examples of this kind of narrative are:
Of course, in a single immutable timeline, a time traveller can cause past events but there are greater subtleties than that. He can change the significance of past events. He can seem to have changed the course of events, then turn out not to have done. He can learn about an event, then experience it.
In There Will Be Time, the Eyrie recruits a handful of mutant time travellers, including Jack Havig and Boris, in Jerusalem on the Day of the Crucifixion. Much later along his own world-line, Havig, now organizing an anti-Eyrie group, sends Boris to infiltrate the Eyrie by being recruited into it on the same day as his younger self. Neither the younger Havig nor his recruiters suspect the significance of Boris, sent to that time and place by the older Havig.
Niffenegger's Henry DeTamble knows that his ex killed herself on a particular date. Then he learns that it was his involuntary extratemporal arrival in her apartment that triggered her suicide. He asks her the date. He knows what she will do with the gun that she is wielding. He knows that she will not kill him. He avoids saying anything that will motivate her to shoot herself but she does that anyway - on the date on which she had done it.
Similar things happen in The Anubis Gates. Read them all!
Routine Time Travel?
To Turn The Tide, CHAPTER TWENTY-EIGHT.
Artorius reflects:
"Time travel does odd things to your mind, too. Thank God it only happened to me once! If it was routine I'd go bughouse." (p. 402)
That has to be read as a comment on sf works where time travel does become routine and some of those are bughouse although not any of the ones that are discussed and recommended on this blog.
James Blish thought that no author had yet done justice to the concept. He envisaged a novel about an entire society based on a finite-spinning-universe theory which apparently would (have) allow(ed) for time travel.
However, just a simple time travel premise like a small group being displaced to a specific date has endless possibilities. SM Stirling shows us what other authors had not thought of. Poul Anderson would have welcomed this antithesis to the Time Patrol project of holding time and history to a single course. And how will this new series develop?
Ben-Hur, Martin Padway And The Time Patrol
To Turn The Tide.
All literature is a conversation with earlier literature, sometimes explicitly:
DMZ And M7
In 49 AD, Manse Everard and Janne Floris of the Time Patrol:
Sunday, 21 June 2026
Identifying
Of Nicholas van Rijn's trade pioneer crew, neither David Falkayn nor Chee Lan but maybe Adzel because of his meditation and studiousness.
Of James Blish's magicians: none. (A book with nothing but villains!)
Of Alan Moore's Watchmen: Doctor Manhattan.
Of Neil Gaiman's Endless: Destiny.
Of SM Stirling's five American time travellers, Mark, who says:
A Sound Policy
To Turn The Tide, CHAPTER NINETEEN.
Marcus Aurelius agrees with Artorius that toleration of all forms of worship that do not upset the public order is a sound policy but thinks that there will still be problems with Christians because they refuse to participate in sacrifices to the Emperor and Rome. Artorius replies that, as with the Jews, Christians could be permitted to pray for the Emperor. He also clarifies that Christian rituals are not cannibalistic feasts and explains them in a way that reminds the Emperor of Orphic beliefs and Eleusinian Mysteries. Men seeking the Infinite:
"'...find common aspects of it.'" (p. 289)
Persecution of Christians might be halted and persecution by Christians prevented. How symbolic is it that a Jew named Josephus has sponsored Artorius? Also, how symbolic is the name "Arthur"?
(Marcus Aurelius in this novel, like Augustus and Lycius in Neil Gaiman's "August," is an Initiate of the Eleusinian Mysteries.)
Artorius seems to be individually wise because he is able to encapsulate the wisdom of subsequent centuries and millennia.
Marcus Aurelius
To Turn The Tide.
Temporal displacement involves place name change. "Vienna, Austria" had been and becomes again "Provincia Pannonia Superior, Imperium Romanum."
Artorius' first meeting with Emperor Marcus Aurelius gets a massive buildup. In CHAPTER FIFTEEN, Marcus Aurelius discusses Artorius while still in Rome. In CHAPTER SEVENTEEN, Marcus Aurelius discusses Artorius after he has travelled to Vindobona in the Province of Pannona Superior. In CHAPTER EIGHTEEN, Artorius reflects that he is about to meet someone whose life and death he has studied and whose books he has read, then does meet him. The Emperor closely resembles his own face on coins and statues. Artorius quotes a book that Marcus Aurelius has not written yet and presumably will not write, or not in the same way, in this new timeline.
This has to be a classic of time travel fiction.
(It was fortunate not only that the merchant Josephus who found the newly arrived and defenceless time travellers did not kill and rob them but instead helped them and treated them with respect but even that they had arrived near a road where they could be and were discovered immediately. However, my friend Andrea informs me that it is inappropriate either to entreat or to thank Fortuna.)
Saturday, 20 June 2026
West Of Hibernia
The Turn Of The Tide.
The barbarians use the swine-array which we have seen before.
Irish people that I have known would be amused by this description of their country:
"Hibernia was a proverb for squalor and backward savagery, full of chanting robed Druids making human sacrifices and tattooed, head-hunting lunatics with lime-bleached hair, still driving war chariots to battle." (p. 220)
(Elsewhere and longer ago, Krishna was Arjuna's charioteer at the Battle of Kurukshetra where He spoke the Bhagavad Gita.)
Artorius is from a country:
"'...west even of Hibernia; they call it America.'" (ibid.)
West and in one other direction. The future is another country.
Marcus Aurelius, Galen And Artorius
To Turn The Tide, CHAPTER FIFTEEN.
We take for granted what writers of fiction do. They have had to learn how much can be done with written words.
At the end of CHAPTER FOURTEEN, a legate tells Artorius (time traveller):
"'The Emperor in Rome shall hear of you service to the State.'" (p. 213)
From its opening sentence, CHAPTER FIFTEEN is narrated from the point of view of Imperator Caesar Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus in Rome. (Names of earlier Emperors are confusingly used as a mixture of titles and additional names.)
The Emperor receives reports about Artorius and converses with Galen who has corresponded with Artorius.
They are impressed by Artorius' mixture of knowledge and modesty. He claims to know much that turns out to be true but also acknowledges that there is much that he does not know. The Emperor is impressed with Artorius' clever derivation of distillation from distillare!
Marcus Aulerius and Galen deduce some of the structure of English from Artorius' written Latin: use of capital letters; spaces between words.
Artorius and his companions have strange powers but are prepared to use them for Rome and mankind. Marcus Aurelius will go to where Artorius is. The mountain will go to Muhammad.
Some Practical Implications
The base timeline cannot be changed.
There is no need for a Time Patrol to prevent causality violations in the base timeline.
In that timeline, one theory of "time travel" might be that it is an elaborate form of suicide and should therefore be discouraged or even prevented for that reason. However, once a time traveller has departed, nothing further can be done.
Of course we know that the first departures into the past coincided with the outbreak of a civilization-destroying nuclear war so maybe that is the end of the matter in any case?
Is there a cosmic evolutionary process whereby intelligence that is about to make itself extinct in one timeline creates and escapes into an alternative timeline?
Fly in the ointment: Fuchs, the inventor of the temporal displacement apparatus, has a real, not duplicate, dolabra (Roman soldier's entrenching tool). Has his apparatus reached into the past and extracted this tool? Or has someone travelled into the past and brought the tool with him on returning to the present? - thus upsetting my carefully constructed theory that all "time travel" is into an alternative timeline? Time travel is a very difficult concept to discuss consistently.
Returning to my theory for the time being, if time travel is invented later in the alternative timeline, then that timeline becomes the base timeline for a second alternative timeline. And so on.
Theorizing
To Turn The Tide.
We are trying to formulate a theory of time and time travel, nothing new but just enough to account for events recounted in this novel.