Wednesday, 12 August 2020

Mainwethering And Everard

"Time Patrol."

Everard, having found evidence of unauthorized extratemporal activity in the fifth century, suggests that:

"'...this business may be quite harmless. In fact, since we're here now, it must have been harmless.'" (3, p. 23)

Mainwethering replies with a harmful hypothesis:

Everard and Whitcomb travel to Jutish times;
they find "'...the marauder...'" (ibid.), i.e., a time criminal;
he shoots them;
he waylays any other agents sent after the first two;
he establishes an industrial revolution or whatever else he intends;
history changes;
Everard and Whitcomb continue to exist, albeit as corpses, after the change-point;
however, Mainwethering, Everard and Whitcomb in 1894 have never been;
this conversation is not taking place...

Hold on there, Mainwethering! I have two major problems with what you are saying.

First, Everard and Whitcomb are new recruits on their first case after graduating from the Time Patrol Academy yet you propose to send them, as if they were experienced Unattached agents, into an unknown situation in another era where they might be killed without any preliminary reconnoitering, preparation or backup. That is not how Everard operates later in his career when, after further training, he has become an Unattached agent. The only possible excuse for this sloppiness must be that the Patrol knows the outcome and finds it acceptable: Everard's early promotion after which he will become one of the most important agents operating in a period of several thousand years.

Secondly, Mainwethering is now having the conversation with Everard so it makes no sense whatsoever for him to say that it might come about that this conversation is not now taking place. If Everard and Whitcomb travel to Jutish times and are then killed with the further consequences suggested by Mainwethering, then their deaths and those consequences occur in a divergent timeline. In that timeline, it will certainly be true that Mainwethering, Everard and Whitcomb in 1894 have never been. The problem of that altered timeline will have to be addressed by those Time Patrol agents, if any, who, having traveled further into the past than the fifth century, return uptime into the altered timeline. If none do, then it is no one's problem.

3 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

You raised very serious difficulties. Since "Time Patrol" was Anderson's very first Patrol story, I would argue the author simply needed more time to think thru the implications of his premises. It might have been a good idea for Anderson to have later revised "Time Patrol" to take into account difficulties of the kind you discussed.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

It's made clear in the introductory talk at the Patrol Academy that there can be "infinite discontinuities in the world-lines" -- that events/people/objects can just pop up, severed from the causal chains that "originally" produced them. If you go to the past and alter it, you still exist -- but the historical sequence that produced you doesn't, except as memories in your head.

Like Deirdre, rescued with Manse and Piet in DELENDA EST, now an isolated fragment of a world that never was.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I should have remembered that bit about "infinite discontinuities in the world-lines." Which I believe can fit in with what Anderson discussed in THE SHIELD OF TIME.

I now no longer think of Deirdre's home universe as having been snuffed out. Rather it became inaccessible to people from the Danellian time line.

Ad astra! Sean