Destroyermen alternative history series by Taylor Anderson. See here. Now can anyone prove a family relationship between Taylor and Poul?)
SM Stirling, Conquistador (New York, 2004), Chapter Eighteen, p. 445.
An interesting exchange between the Bothas Senior and Junior -
Senior: This is serious business, boy. We may have to fight some of our own relatives, not just the bliddy Indians.
Junior: Only if they're fools enough to get mixed up in treason.
Senior: Treason is what you do when you lose...I'd be on the other side myself, if I thought it would work. But it wouldn't.
What? Piet Botha would take part in seizing the Gate and conquering the Other Side if he thought that it was feasible? Nice guy, isn't he?
He has a point about "treason."
"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
"Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
Our British constitutional monarchy results from a Revolutionary Settlement. The makers of the Glorious Revolution were "traitors" until they succeeded.