Wednesday, 19 November 2025

Athanaric And The Christians

"The Sorrow of Odin the Goth," 348-366, pp. 409-422.

Tharasmund's father-in-law, Athanaric, king of the West Goths, persecutes Christians because he sees them as agents of the Empire, an unjust and counterproductive policy. Instead, he should:

treat Christians and pagans with full equality;

show Christians that they can be as happy outside the Empire as inside it and indeed might even prefer life outside it;

include one or more representatives of Christian communities among his advisors;

encourage sharing of cultures and festivals.

Some Christian clergy dislike that fourth policy but it can be done. Muslim neighbours bring us food at Eid. Everyone who visits a Sikh Gurdwara or a Krishna Temple is fed. We are enriched by diversity.

7 comments:

S.M. Stirling said...

Of course, early Christianity was militantly exclusionist.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

A better word would be "universalist," that being the belief and duty of the Catholic Church to proclaim the Gospel to all nations.

I was surprised to find out even Tibet has a Catholic community and hence oppressed by the Maoists for being both Christians and Tibetans.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: I'm a 'live and let live' type myself.

S.M. Stirling said...

Note that the Romans, say, didn't have the concept of "a religion". They had words for 'religion-in-general', rites and sacrifices, and they identified foreign gods with theirs if they resembled each other, but they had no concept of -a- religion.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

Of course, and I believe having a "live and let live" attitude does not mean being a milquetoast about one's beliefs. Only that evangelizing should be peaceful.

The fierce, uncompromising monotheism of the Jews and the evangelizing zeal of the Christians was a shock to pagan Romans.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

I don't think it would have gotten far without the 3rd-century crisis, when Rome's Empire nearly went under.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I am not entirely sure of that. I do agree the chaos of the Third Century Crisis of the Empire encouraged conversions to Christianity--meaning any averting of that crisis might well have slowed the growth of Christianity. But, as Psalm 89/90.4 says: "For a thousand years in thy sight are as yesterday which has passed, and as a watch in the night." Meaning God's time is not man's time. Christianity would still increase because I believe that is the will of God.

Ad astra! Sean