SM Stirling, The Peshawar Lancers (New York, 2003).
"'...to set us all at each other's throats and bring on this general war, this...'
"'World War,' David bar-Elias said.
"'Yes, World War. Merciful Krishna, what a ghastly concept!'" (p. 314)
Because and only because their civilization has been knocked back by a physical catastrophe, the post-Fall British Imperialists are only just approaching the possibility of a first World War in 2025 - and one of their number has a grossly over-simplistic idea about how history might have gone without the Fall. Continuing the dialogue:
"'It is,' Warburton said. 'If there hadn't been a Fall to throw back progress, we'd be beyond the possibility of such things already. Probably the Empire would have united the world by now.'" (pp. 314-315)
Right!
The Fall was (or was not) in 1878;
the First World War began thirty six years later;
the Second followed twenty one years after the First;
a Third was prevented only by the madness of MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction);
none of that has prevented continued destruction on comparable scales in selected geographical areas.
Lacking experience of our twentieth century, Warburton cannot know that the complex dynamism of industrial civilization sweeps away any Empire long before it can unite the world. Could the current global economy be reorganized so as to preserve its creativity while lessening its destructiveness? Unless it is transformed into or replaced by something else, our economy will retain an inner dynamic of competitive accumulation, causing boom and slump cycles, monopolization and armed conflicts for resources, as Poul Anderson showed on an interstellar scale in Mirkheim.
Yasmini the seeress prophesies:
"'I have...dreamed it. War over all the world, cities burning and bombed from above, both sides building new and terrible weapons...the Great Powers fighting until they are exhausted...'" (pp. 313-314)
- exactly as HG Wells predicted.
7 comments:
Hi, Paul!
First, a tiny correction. WW I began, in our timeline, THIRTY SIX years after 1878.
Second, and more importantly, I simply don't agree any economy can be so "reorganized" as to prevent wars from breaking out. Because the real flaws lies in our human NATURE, not merely in social, political, or economic organizations.
Btw, that also means I don't think the complex dynamism of a genuine free enterprise economy will INEVITABLY sweep away the Angrezi Raj. Not if the Empire remains able to flexibly adapt to it.
Sean
Sean,
Thank you for the arithmetical correction. I often get simple calculations wrong in my head. I am literate but scarcely numerate!
I agree that our competitive economy cannot be reorganized to prevent wars. Wars are fought in an oil-producing part of the world because of the economic importance of oil, not IMO because of the sinfulness of the inhabitants of the countries involved.
But an Empire that could be flexible and adaptable enough to incorporate any industrial/technological change and all consequent social transformations? An interesting idea.
Paul.
Hi, Paul!
Thanks for taking my petty nit picking about dates so nicely!
But, as regards oil at least, we are in no immediate danger of running out of it. New technology, such as hydro fracking, has opened up vast new oil reseves in North America alone. That alone, if the fools who are our current leaders in Washington, DC, would give the US a good deal more room for maneuvering, IF they would use it.
And, even more importantly, my belief is that the kind of "co operative" economy you advocate is possible only in a free enterprise economy. And that would be true whatever the form of the state might be. Any other kind of "economic reorganization" inevitably becomes state socialism if it is coercively imposed by the state. And I think you have admitted that has not worked at all well.
All merely human insitutions are flawed and doomed to fall in time. But I see no reason why the Angrezi Raj and France-Outre-Mer could not last for centuries to come as long as they remain as flexible and adaptable as we see them in THE PESHAWAR LANCERS.
Or even the Terran Empire, in Poul Anderson's Technic History, despite Dominic Flandry's anxieties and forebodings!
Sean
Sean,
I think we can and should try to overcome those motivations that are called "sinful" in some religious traditions. In some respects, we have come a long way in a short time with, e.g., the rule of law replacing the rule of men (at least in theory) and trial by jury replacing an obligation of vengeance! If the Raj lasted long enough, then I think there would come a time when socially accessible technology and universal education would make class and caste distinctions redundant so that a King-Emperor, if the title still existed, would be such in name only. Adaptability eventually means changing into something completely different.
Paul.
Hi, Paul!
As a Catholic I believe that, ultimately, the badness I see in myself and all mankind can be overcome only by cooperating with the grace of God.
I would certainly hope the Angrezi Raj would last enough for the wealth and new tecnology created by a free enterprise economy to spread as widely as possible. That alone would go a long way towards softening class and caste disctinctions. As for the politics, you already know my basic view, putting chains on the power of the state, whatever its form may be, is more important than that form. Whether republic or monarchy, I prefer, IOW, a consitutional regime where both the Executive and the legislature have limited powers.
Sean
For some hope of long lasting peace see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory
and a book on the idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_at_War
To reduce or eliminate the issue of wars over resources I think we need to build nuclear power, especially reactors running a breeder cycle, U238 to Pu239, Th232 to U233, or both.
For technical details on one such reactor see
http://www.thesciencecouncil.com/pdfs/PlentifulEnergy.pdf
For a briefer discussion of that reactor plus discussion of two other technologies which might help to provide prosperity without environmental damage
https://www.thesciencecouncil.com/index.php/more-info/books/prescription-for-the-planet-by-tom-blees
Fusion or solar power satellites might also be able to provide the plentiful energy needed for a prosperous future, but fission is much closer to fully developed.
Kaor, Jim!
We agree, at least, on the desirability and practicality of nuclear energy, fusion or fission.
And I have also argued for a REAL solar power system, one based in space, collected by satellites and transmitted down to Earth.
Unfortunately, bungling idiots, like "Josip" and his puppet masters, are opposed to that kind of outside the box thinking!
Ad astra! Sean
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