Wednesday, 4 December 2024

Sparks And Masks

The Day Of Their Return, 7.

Tatiana Thane asks Chunderban Desai:

"'What are we? Sparks, cast up from a burnin' universe whose creation was meanin'less accident? Or children of God? Or parts, masks of God? Or seed from which God will at last grow?'" (p. 129)

My responses:

How could pre-conscious events have meaning or be anything but accidental?

"God" can mean (i) a transcendent person, (ii) the object of numinous or mystical experience or (iii) both (i) and (ii). Let's stay with (ii). I think that it is fair to say that we are sparks, masks and children of the void.

Tatiana Thane is right to speculate but gives way to credulity about the Elders.

8 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

And I believe your point " i " is the true answer. All intelligent beings are children of God. The other points are erroneous, in different ways.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

They are not. Theists acknowledge religious experiences.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I might be mistaken, but I thought you said some non-theists could have "numinous and mystical" experiences.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

I did. They do.

Paul.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

People have experiences, then interpret them. Then believers project experiences, including visions.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Believers in particular interpretations. Indian mystics can say that God is personal or is impersonal.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

And those Indians are mistaken. God cannot be both personal and impersonal. That would be a contradiction. The true answer remains point " i ".
Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

Sorry. I meant that some say that God Is personal whereas others say that God is impersonal.

The true answer remains (ii), in my opinion. Neither of us should just state that his opinion is the truth. The other can simply contradict it. All we can do is state our reasons. That is enough for a discussion which is the best that we can do.

Paul.