Saturday, 25 May 2024

The Dog And The Wolf II

"'The Lady Jessica ordered you to differentiate between the wolf and the dog, between ze'eb and ke'leb. By her definition a wolf is someone with power who misuses that power. However, between wolf and dog there is a dawn period when you cannot distinguish between them.'"
-Frank Herbert, Children of Dune (New York, 1977), p. 372.

"'The dog remembers the wolf.'" (ibid.)

(I do not know what ze'eb and ke'leb are.)


Thus, this distinction between dog and wolf or vice versa is in a tetralogy by Poul and Karen Anderson, a novel by Jerry Pournelle and SM Stirling and a novel by Frank Herbert. Herbert's texts contain passages which read as if they are meant to come across as profound. I am still proceeding toward the end of Children of Dune in small chunks but mainly doing other reading.

5 comments:

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

From Sean M. Brooks:

Kaor, Paul!

In THE DOG AND THE WOLF what I thought the Andersons meant was that a "dog" was civilized, self controlled, and ruled by law while a "wolf" was savage, barbaric, ruthless, etc.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

He did.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

With Niall of the Nine Hostages being one of those wolves tearing at the Western Empire as it was beginning its final decline.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

From a rabbit's POV, the distinction between dog and wolf is sort of arbitrary...

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

Ha, true!

Ad astra! Sean