Thursday, 18 December 2025

Lewis, Heinlein And Anderson On The Hereafter

Introduction
This blog appreciates Poul Anderson and also recommends some other high quality sf writers including:

the early Wells
CS Lewis
the early Heinlein
James Blish
SM Stirling

Lewis
I have read Lewis' spiritual autobiography, popular theology and theologically informed fiction, both adult and juvenile. Some critics might regard Lewis' fantasy and sf as propaganda and I personally have problems in particular with his Perelandra for its anti-Darwinism. However, he did write imaginative and insightful novels and short stories which were admired by the agnostic James Blish and still are by many, including myself.

Lewis presents philosophical arguments (which I do not accept) for theism but merely assumes indefinite continuation of human consciousness after physical death. I regard such an assumption as a major weakness. Of course, we must heed any alleged arguments or evidence for survival. Lewis implies acceptance of the evidence of Spiritualism:

"'They prefer taking trips back to Earth. They go and play tricks on the poor daft women ye call mediums. They go and try to assert their ownership of some house that once belonged to them: and then ye get what's called a Haunting.'" 
-CS Lewis, The Great Divorce (London, 1982), p. 61.

Here, a resident in the hereafter plausibly describes some aspects of our experience.

Heinlein
Apparently, Heinlein believed in survival because he wanted to: the worst possible reason.

"'When you die, you don't die all over, no matter how intensely you may claim to expect to. It is an emotional impossibility for any man to believe in his own death.'"
-Robert Heinlein, "Elsewhen," quoted in Heinlein In Dimension.

(If I have "Elsewhen" upstairs, then I can check it for myself but blog readers might remember my reluctance to climb stairs late in the evening.)

It is perfectly possible to believe in our own deaths. I did not experience anything before I was born. Why should I experience anything after I am dead? I did experience my consciousness being irresistibly driven down into darkness by a general anaesthetic. I remember nothing between that extinguishment and my later reawakening. If I had died under the anaesthetic, then there would have been no further experiences or memories of this individual. Life and consciousness would have continued but mine would have ceased as they surely will. How can anything, especially something as complicated as memory and identity, continue forever?

Panshin doubted that it was emotionally impossible for any man to believe in his own death but suspected that this was true of Heinlein. Indeed.

Heinlein, through one of his characters, attempts an argument for immortality:

"I am immortal. I transcend this little time-axis; a seventy-year span on it is but a casual phase in my experience. Second only to the prime datum of my own existence is the emotionally convincing certainty of my own continuity. I may be a closed curve, but, closed or open, I neither have a beginning nor an end. Self-awareness is not relational; it is absolute, and cannot be reached to be destroyed, or created. Memory, however, being a relational aspect of consciousness, may be tampered with and possibly destroyed."
-Robert Heinlein, "They," IN Heinlein, The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag (London, 1980), pp. 138-153 AT p. 146.

Slow down, man. Emotionally convincing? A closed curve would be immortal? Why can you not end? Go to sleep and do not wake up. Self-awareness not relational? Self is recognized as such only in relationship to other, like left-right, up-down, on-off etc. Awareness or consciousness is precisely the relationship between a subject and its objects. That relationship can certainly be created and destroyed. Memory possibly destroyed? It can certainly be destroyed and that is the end of the continuity of the self. 

Heinlein's "Goldfish Bowl" should be upstairs but is summarized on Wikipedia. See the link. One of the scientists who finds himself in a featureless environment considers the hypothesis that he has died and is in a hereafter. That is how pervasive this idea is in Heinlein's works.

Anderson...
...considered a scientific rationale for survival - a similar rationale is present in Starfarers although in less detail - but, in Anderson's works, this is only a speculative story idea. Anderson had neither the religious faith of Lewis nor the emotional conviction of Heinlein.

5 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Not quite! I've read what I believe were at least hints in some of Anderson's later works that he wished he believed in the existence of God and hence an afterlife.

Some philosophers argue for the existence of God, others against His existence. Conclusion, philosophy alone cannot definitively answer this question.

All that is left, really, is to choose to accept or deny God by faith. Those who choose to affirm the positive, God being real, will have to search for that faith which convinces them it is true and was divinely revealed.

There are certain phenomena, called miracles, which believers say were granted not only to show the divine mercy, as at Lourdes, but also (in my opinion) to shake the faith of those who deny God exists.

Merry Christmas! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

We must each find out what we ourselves think about the arguments, not just say that there are arguments on both sides, therefore the matter is unresolved. Discussion will continue.

To choose to believe a proposition is irrational.

Miracles are as yet unexplained phenomena which always exist on the frontiers of knowledge.

Paul.

Jim Baerg said...

"wished he believed in the existence of God and hence an afterlife"

Anderson or I believing it would be nice it X was true does nothing to indicate either of us believe X is actually true, or that it IS actually true.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I disagree, all that philosophy can do is make arguments for or against whatever is under debate, and still unable to be as definitive as 2 + 2 always and forever being 4.

I disagree, whatever any of us might believe still comes down to making choices, either rationally or irrationally.

I disagree, a miracle by definition is a sensibly perceptible effect which surpasses anything observed in nature. These effects are acts thru which God suspends the ordinary natural processes. A woman dying of ALS who was instantaneously cured when placed in the waters at Lourdes exactly fits that definition. No, many simply don't admit being wrong, or even possibly wrong. Fortunately, not all are so unwilling to admit other possibilities.

Merry Christmas! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

I did not say that philosophical argument could definitively answer philosophical questions. Obviously it does not. Disagreements remain and in any case most people just believe what they want to believe and rationalize it.

Belief comes down to choice? No. It comes down to evidence and reasons. We do not choose to believe that the Earth is round. We know that there is evidence for it. If belief was merely a matter of choice, then there would be no point in discussing evidence or reasons. We would each just say, "I choose to believe X" or "I choose to believe Y" etc. But how can you CHOOSE to believe? That is not "either rational or "irrational." It is merely irrational, without reason.

I also disagree with everything you are saying. You have to believe in God BEFORE you can believe that a miracle is an act of God. A woman instantaneously cured does not exactly fit the definition of a divine suspension of natural processes. You have to believe in God already before you can accept such a definition. She does certainly fit into the category of an as yet unexplained phenomenon.

You are saying that I am not admitting to being wrong? That accusation can be made either way and gets us nowhere. I certainly acknowledge that I can possibly be wrong. Don't you?

I am unwilling to admit other possibilities? I have considered the possibilities and have stated my reasons for disagreeing with monotheism on philosophical grounds and with Christianity on historical grounds. How is this being UNWILLING to acknowledge that there are or might be other possibilities? Belief is a matter of evidence and reasons, not of will.

What we wind up with here is an implicit accusation of a mixture of moral and intellectual blindness instead of just a straightforward discussion of the issues. Can't we just stay with the latter?

Paul.