Tuesday, 17 March 2026

Numerals


OK. I have returned to being all at sea with the numerals at the climax of After Doomsday, 15.

See Donnan's Second Moment Of Realization And A Solution?

Arabic And Kandemirian Numerals, The Latter Replaced By Roman Letters
0 L
1 A
2 B
3 C
4 D
5 E
6 F
7 G
8 H
9 I
10 J
11 K
12 AL

Arabic And Monwaingi Numerals, The Latter Replaced By Roman Letters
0 R
1 M
2 N
3 O
4 P
5 Q
6 MR

We are told that:

BA=NQ=25

- and that:

ABIJ=MOQMP=2134

How come?

OK. I realize where I am going all wrong again. But I had to write it all out like this again before I realized. Maybe Anderson/Donnan could have explained it in more detail for the benefit of non-mathematicians.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

I admit I took on faith Donnan and Sigrid's explanations of what these complexities meant the times I read AFTER DOOMSDAY.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

I am not mathematically mind but can manage to work out what is going on. In the Kandemirian or any other duodecimal system, symbols corresponding to "25" mean not "(2 x 10) + 5" but "(2 x 12) + 5" so it looks wrong until you allow for the different number base which is what some Monwaingi technician was doing while programming a Kandemirian missile.

Paul.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

not mathematically minded

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

I agree these complexities can be grasped if readers are willing to make the effort needed to follow the reasoning.

Started reading Heinlein's CITIZEN OF THE GALAXY. Maybe I'll reread AFTER DOOMSDAY when I finish CITIZEN.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Yeah, I could do algebra but ordinary math drove me nuts in high school. Got A+ grades in most things but a barely passable C in math.

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Students used to have to pass an exam in general subjects before starting a degree course.

I knew a graduate who could not understand the proof that there is no highest prime number and dismissed it as "gobbledegook." He also did not understand either logic or scientific method but was full of negative opinions about them. With that attitude to knowledge, I do not think that he deserved to hold a degree.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling and Paul!

Mr. Stirling: It takes a special talent for anyone to be really good at math.

Paul: And that's how education should be done. I've thought more than once that a revival of the medieval educational system of the trivium and quadrivium would be beneficial. Revised, of course, to accommodate genuine advances in knowledge. With no concessions to Politically Correct nonsense or blather about "dead white males"!

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

"Nonsense" and "blather" are abuse.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

Except there are people who are guilty of such absurdities.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Paul: the problem is that intelligent people are very good at convincing themselves of what they want to believe.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

That's a huge reason why I am so skeptical and distrustful of all radicals.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

Exactly the same point applies to all conservatives.

Paul.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul!

Real conservatives are also distrustful of themselves, because they know how flawed and imperfect all human beings are. Prone to folly and blundering.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Sean,

Real radicals are highly self-critical.

Paul.