Friday, 27 September 2024

The Sun And The Man

In a church, consecrated bread and wine are the body of a Man who is God. (Here I express a particular world-view, not my own.)

"Overhead he saw a painted roof, where a youth killed a bull, and the Bull was the Sun and the Man."
-Poul Anderson, "Brave To Be A King" IN Anderson, Time Patrol (Riverdale, NY, December 2010), pp. 55-112 AT 7, p. 92.

Manse Everard of the Time Patrol understands the dominant world-view in Persia in 542 A.D. Peasants make offerings not to the Mother of God but:

"...to an Earth Mother who was old in this land when the Aryans came, and that was in a predawn past." (ibid.)

A Time Patrolman is able to travel not only physically but also conceptually. He experiences the past and sees, sometimes even experiences, what the present would have been if the past had been different.

9 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Some Catholics might have tried to express this Mystery more precisely: at the consecration a validly ordained priest transubstantiates the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ because of His power passing thru the minister of the Eucharist.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Note that the Indo-Europeans usually had a female deity paired with their male ones.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

Such as Zeus having Hera as his sister and wife. And the Romans had Jupiter paired with Juno.

I rather vaguely thought most pagan pantheons had the male gods paired with goddesses.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Often, but not always. One interesting bit of the IE pantheon is that most of its descendants have male and female war-deities. Usually the male one is like Ares, a berserker, and the female like Athena, who was a -thoughtful- fighter.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I do recall how the Greeks had Athena not being a hot tempered impulsive berserker like Ares.

Ad astra! Sean

paulshackley2017@gmail.com said...

Are there any more examples of Ares-Athena-like pairs?

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

The answer to that can be complicated and confusing. I did a quick google of pagan pantheons and many of them had multiple gods, male or female, who were gods of war or aspects of war.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

The Irish Celts had the Morrigan -- Morrigu-badb-Macha.

She had some similarities with Athena, if you make allowance for the lower level of civilization; she was a "defender of the people", linked to the earth and to sovereignty.

The name probably derives from something like "Phantom Queen".

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

Well, I was more interested in looking up which gods of the ancient Egyptians were in charge of war or aspects of war. (Smiles)

Ad astra! Sean