Harvest The Fire,
CHAPTER 12.
Venator to Nicol:
"'Study some history, and you'll see how much wreckage, misery, and death was due to idealists. Earth is well rid of their sort.'" (p. 163)
If Nicol studies some history, then he might learn different lessons but then he can discuss the issues with Venator.
Manse Everard:
"'I think most human misery is due to well-meaning fanatics...'"
-Poul Anderson, "Time Patrol" IN Anderson, Time Patrol (Riverdale, NY, 2010), pp. 1-53 AT 5, p. 42.
I would find it hard to argue about history with a Time Patrolman.
Nicholas van Rijn:
"'The troublemakers, they are those what are not contented with God's gifts of good food, drink, music, women, profit. No, they bring on misery because they must play at being God themselves, they will be our Saviors with a capital ass.'"
-Poul Anderson, Mirkheim IN Anderson, Rise Of The Terran Empire (Riverdale, NY, 2011), pp. 1-291 AT IX, p. 136.
Profit is hardly a gift from God. It is a relationship between people. Not everyone has van Rijn's opportunities to enjoy good food, drink etc. In "Lodestar," he has to be told that the beings in Supermetals are not playing games but seeking freedom for their peoples.