Friday, 10 June 2016

Lawfulness And Drunkenness

"...between the Dog and the Wolf there is only the Law."
-Poul and Karen Anderson, The Dog And The Wolf, Chapter XXV, section 4, p. 504.
(The concluding line of The King Of Ys.)

"'...what but lawfulness makes gods different from thursir?'"
-Poul Anderson, War Of The Gods (Tor Books, New York, 1999), p. 84.

Thus, dogs and gods are lawful whereas wolves and giants are unlawful.

In War Of The Gods, Hadding spins out his stories about gods and giants while getting his captors drunk. (Drunkenness and sobriety are another dichotomy closely allied to lawlessness and lawfulness.) In which other work by Poul Anderson does a captive get his captors drunk so that he can then escape?

16 comments:

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

You asked: "In which other work by Poul Anderson does a captive get his captors drunk so that he can then escape?" I've thought and thought and I simply can't recall which story that happened in! (Smiles)

Hmmm, not THE HIGH CRUSADE, THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS, or any of the Dominic Flandry tales.

Btw, because of favorable comments made by you, I purchased a copy of Gregory Benford and Larry Niven's THE BOWL OF HEAVEN tonight. I hope it's a good read!

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

Sean,
"The Only Game In Town."
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Dang it! Now I remember! And I had even thought of that story, but wasn't sure if Manse Everard had ESCAPED from the Mongols rather than, in addition, making them drunk. Drat! (Smiles)

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

Sean,
Did you find which novel begins, "The beginning shapes the end..."?
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Alas, no! I'm starting to think I would need to examine all 140 or so of my Poul Anderson books. Which I find rather daunting! (Smiles)

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

Sean,
But, if you keep looking, there will be time to find it.
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

I agree! I will buckle down to that task soon! (Smiles)

Sean

David Birr said...

Oh, Sean....

Havig been given the clue twice now, you're going to be SO embarrassed when you spot it.

Power was out in my neighborhood for something like thirteen hours yesterday, or I WOULD have been able to mention "The Only Game in Town" -- for THAT one, the answer came to me the moment I saw the question.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Hi, David!

Now I'm feeling stupid! (Smiles)

At least I did sort of came close to getting the answer. I DID think of "The Only Game In Town," but failed to check up about "getting your guards drunk to escape."

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

Sean,
I am not quite sure what you mean here. You understand about "The Only Game In Town" but have you had enough time to find the novel beginning "The beginning shapes the end..." yet?
Paul.

David Birr said...

Sean:
I certainly didn't mean for you to feel *stupid* about "The beginning shapes the end...." I didn't have any ideas until Paul offered a clue. It's more a matter of being so smart that you looked for a complex, concealed answer and thus missed what he'd "hidden" in plain sight. Like "The Purloined Letter."

Sean M. Brooks said...

Hi, David and Paul!

At last, I found it! The line, "The beginning shapes the end" is the first sentence of Chapter 1 of THERE WILL BE TIME! Albeit, I had to check about ten of Anderson's books to find it. (Smiles)

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

Sean,
I said twice "...there will be time for you to find it..." and David, deliberately miss-speling a word, wrote, "Havig been given the clue twice..." so we were hiding out in plain sight that the book was THERE WILL BE TIME about Jack Havig.
Paul.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Ha, ha! Very amusing! And I'm chagrined at having missed the clues! (Smiles)

Sean

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Paul!

Alas, it only goes to show how easily I can miss things hidden in plain sight! (Smiles)

Sean

Paul Shackley said...

All's well that ends well.