tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post6855577437741105301..comments2024-03-28T07:57:49.338+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: Camping In New Virginia In 1946Ketlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-9890675320171454642022-10-29T01:15:54.750+01:002022-10-29T01:15:54.750+01:00Kaor, Jim!
But, in any case, that was not how Joh...Kaor, Jim!<br /><br />But, in any case, that was not how John Rolfe chose to handle matters. And I think he was right, because he was thinking STRATEGICALLY, long term.<br /><br />Ad astra! SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-34213792080139834842022-10-28T17:52:08.387+01:002022-10-28T17:52:08.387+01:00Sure, but it would still be easier to get the gold...Sure, but it would still be easier to get the gold for whatever purpose by trading for it.Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-85321767750217982292022-10-26T18:02:01.040+01:002022-10-26T18:02:01.040+01:00Kaor, Jim!
Yes, but my point was John Rolfe only ...Kaor, Jim!<br /><br />Yes, but my point was John Rolfe only needed a relatively small amount of gold to help pay for bigger things than just mining. He wanted to found a NATION.<br /><br />Ad astra! SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-50917094404080285562022-10-26T03:26:28.818+01:002022-10-26T03:26:28.818+01:00They started off with small scale panning for gold...They started off with small scale panning for gold.<br />Getting the locals to do that in exchange for things that are cheap in 20th century California but both very useful to a hunter gatherer & impossible to make in a hunter gatherer society would benefit the locals & get Rolfe et al. more gold for less effort on their part.Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-90547453785408142822022-10-24T21:59:28.672+01:002022-10-24T21:59:28.672+01:00Kaor, Jim!
I am skeptical that it would be possib...Kaor, Jim!<br /><br />I am skeptical that it would be possible to prevent virgin field epidemics from devastating the Indians of N/S America from even minor accidentally introduced diseases. My view is that 15 or 17,000 years of isolation from the rest of the human race left the Indians dangerously prone to succumb even to minor colds most of us would shrug off in a few days.<br /><br />But large scale mining requires a large infrastructure of both labor and equipment, which John Rolfe did not have at that time. Plus, he was starting to think BIG, of founding his own nation in that alternate world. Compared to that mining is not so big and could be left till after the Commonwealth was firmly established.<br /><br />Ad astra! SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-68609587945860199972022-10-24T19:22:26.771+01:002022-10-24T19:22:26.771+01:00Bringing the common cold to the Amerindians.
The s...Bringing the common cold to the Amerindians.<br />The same plot point as in "Island in the Sea of Time".<br />Is there any way that could *not* happen given the postulated situation?<br /><br />As a Canadian familiar with the history of the fur trade, I think Rolfe et al. missed a good idea in doing their own mining rather than trading metal knives etc. to the locals for gold.Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-62442811133701005562016-02-01T16:16:39.128+00:002016-02-01T16:16:39.128+00:00Kaor, Paul!
I remember this as well. And one poin...Kaor, Paul!<br /><br />I remember this as well. And one point that struck me was the accident of Andy O'Brien starting to come down with a cold. A cold which was unintentionally spread to the local Indians--with calamitous results. Many thousands of years of isolation from the rest of the human race had made Western Hemisphere Indians less resistant to the diseases, even minor ones, plaguing the rest of the planet.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com