Friday, 22 May 2026

Relaying The Story

Often in fantasy or sf, a character travels to another world or to another time and the story is somehow relayed to us as readers. Of course there are many examples.

The outer narrator relays the Time Traveller's account of his time travelling.

Poul Anderson relays Robert Anderson's accounts of Jack Havig's time travelling. (And one of Havig's fellow time travellers gave the time travel idea to Wells.)

An unnamed first person narrator relays Holger Carlsen's account of his time in the Carolingian universe.

The omniscient narrator describes Holger's later visit to the Old Phoenix inn between the universes.

We notice similarities between the introductory passages of Three Hearts And Three Lions and of There Will Be Time, e.g., physical descriptions of Holger Carlsen and of Robert Anderson.

This a quick post between preparations to travel tomorrow.

12 comments:

S.M. Stirling said...

I'm unconvinced by any time travel story that has a 'fixed' timeline. Contingency is all!

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Paul and Mr. Stirling!

Paul: And THE HIGH CRUSADE was relayed to us thru the chronicle written by Brother Parvus.

Mr. Stirling: If time travel is possible, then I have to agree contingency is more likely than time traveling in immutable timelines. Still, I appreciated the stories Anderson wrote using that idea, such as THE DANCER FROM ATLANTIS.

And I loved the cover painting Frank Frazetta made for that story!

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: Yes, they're well-written. But some -intelligent- agency would have to guard against 'accidents', or time would have to be not 'real' at all, with all of time existing at the same 'time'.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

That is a serious problem for authors writing stories like this. E.g., Anderson had to have Jack Havig suffer a broken leg to prevent him from averting his father's death in THERE WILL BE TIME.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: yes. What -caused- the broken leg? What caused it at just that time?

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

Maybe that power was God, or an angel acting for Him?

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: that makes sense... but that's a non-theistic universe.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I've read THERE WILL BE TIME repeatedly and I don't recall the story being non-theistic.

Ad astra! Sean

Jim Baerg said...

Sean: Perhaps you take theism so for granted that you perceive anything that doesn't explicitly reject theism as theistic, while a non-theist might do the reverse.

Sean M. Brooks said...

Kaor, Jim!

I also had in mind how Anderson was never hostile to theists--a view which shows up in so many of his stories that it's hard to think otherwise. IIRC even in THERE WILL BE TIME one of the agents Jack Havig infiltrated into Caleb Wallis' Eyrie was a Dominican friar.

Ad astra! Sean

S.M. Stirling said...

Sean: he wasn't hostile to theists, but he wasn't one himself. That was his 'default' state.

Anonymous said...

Kaor, Mr. Stirling!

I certainly agree with that being Anderson's default view.

Ad astra! Sean