Monday, 4 September 2017

Sub Rosa

It really is necessary to check the meaning of any and every unfamiliar word or phrase in Poul Anderson's works. I have not been thorough enough as yet.

Dominic Flandry says that the Merseians would offer sub rosa help to a Terran Imperial Pretender. (A Stone In Heaven, XII, p. 167) Googling this Latin phrase (see here) reveals:

an ancient mythological explanation;
symbolism associated with Catholic confessionals;
Rosicrucianism.

And you cannot possibly get any more esoteric than that.

7 comments:

  1. Kaor, Paul!

    You're right, I checked! The origins, history, and uses of "sub rosa" was very esoteric!

    Sean

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  2. Paul and Sean:
    The U.S. Army's Intelligence Branch includes a rose in its official insignia, explicitly because of that symbolism.

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    1. Kaor, David!

      Because the US Army Intelligence Service collects and guards secrets? So, the rose would make a natural symbol.

      Btw, we see mentioned in Chapter II of THE REBEL WORLDS that the insigne for Dominic Flandry's branch of the Imperial Navy, the Intelligence Corps, was a star with an eye.

      Sean

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  3. It also refers to going outside into the garden to talk about things -- "sub rosa", under the rose-bush (on a trellis).

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    1. Dear Mr. Stirling,

      With the context being that such a conversation would be private and confidential.

      Sean

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    2. Yup. And because rose-bushes were often trained around and over latticework pergolas, you couldn't be seen well either.

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    3. Dear Mr. Stirling,

      And that's a nuance I had not thought of!

      Sean

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