tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post7144022210450799168..comments2024-03-28T23:31:48.203+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: The Beginning Of Technic CivilizationKetlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-75021991513575596932023-03-18T06:58:12.688+00:002023-03-18T06:58:12.688+00:00Kaor, Jim!
Now that you've mentioned it, he a...Kaor, Jim!<br /><br />Now that you've mentioned it, he almost certainly was!<br /><br />Ad astra! Sean<br />Sean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-89880805126120824052023-03-17T18:38:12.975+00:002023-03-17T18:38:12.975+00:00I thought it fairly obvious that Anderson was retc...I thought it fairly obvious that Anderson was retconning the absence of rotating space habitats from Technic civilization stories written before O'Neill's work was published. Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-28068272391301561412016-10-17T20:21:36.629+01:002016-10-17T20:21:36.629+01:00Kaor, DAVID!
I think you made some good points on...Kaor, DAVID!<br /><br />I think you made some good points on why O'Neill colonies could still be useful. But, I still think that for truly LONG lasting off Earth colonies you will need planets. Nor did Poul Anderson say that all that MANY extra-Solar planets will be all that terrestroid. Some of the human colonies we see in his Technic History stories are definitely marginal: such as Aeneas and Altai.<br /><br />But, O'Neill colonies should still be useful in systems used only for mining valuable minerals or as military outposts.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-52331424452910375932016-10-17T17:13:26.234+01:002016-10-17T17:13:26.234+01:00David,
I am quoting Anderson on that score (RISE O...David,<br />I am quoting Anderson on that score (RISE OF THE TERRAN EMPIRE, p. 139) and he is referring to the colonies in Earth orbit, not to such colonies in general.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-46616029080751519852016-10-17T16:49:09.148+01:002016-10-17T16:49:09.148+01:00Paul:
I'm not altogether certain WHY hyperdriv...Paul:<br />I'm not altogether certain WHY hyperdrive would make O'Neill colonies obsolete. Certainly they'd be less needed as living space if there were planets to colonize. However, once you're down on a planet's surface, you've got a gravity well to climb out of before you can go anywhere ELSE. <br /><br />Also, extraterrestrial biospheres aren't, realistically, all that likely to be compatible for human life. And suppose a system lacks useful planets but there IS need for a Terran presence for some reason -- shipping transfers, pickets against hostile incursion, etc. <br /><br />Bottom line, I still see at least SOME need for O'Neill colonies, Stanford Tori, or other designs.David Birrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08973889429164886381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-35467879479783332782016-10-17T12:43:07.355+01:002016-10-17T12:43:07.355+01:00Kaor, Paul!
Yes, that makes sense, dating the mor...Kaor, Paul!<br /><br />Yes, that makes sense, dating the more or less definitive beginnings of Technic Civlization to the building of the O'Neill colonies and the changing of English into Anglic. Perhaps around AD 2050 to 2100 (with the hyperdrive being invented around the latter year)?<br /><br />And I wish we were already building O'Neill colonies! I still have my copy of O'Neill's book describing and advocating such things.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com