tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post5001588579215454121..comments2024-03-28T07:57:49.338+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: PanoramaKetlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-43375440336390393882023-01-16T01:30:45.563+00:002023-01-16T01:30:45.563+00:00Kaor, Jim!
An amusing thought, one I never though...Kaor, Jim!<br /><br />An amusing thought, one I never thought of before! Yes, I can imagine Emperor Olaf indulging in foolish, even dangerous pranks of that sort. I think Caligula came to his violent end at least partly because his antics angered and offended too many powerful Romans. Something similar may have happened to Olaf.<br /><br />Ad astra! SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-54291987232839860172023-01-15T20:43:38.993+00:002023-01-15T20:43:38.993+00:00So I wonder if Olaf put a horse on the Policy Boar...So I wonder if Olaf put a horse on the Policy Board in the hope that a member who always voted neigh would help give the Terran Empire stable government.Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-77894178407201944292016-07-13T08:59:57.183+01:002016-07-13T08:59:57.183+01:00Kaor, Paul!
I was trying to be careful, allowing ...Kaor, Paul!<br /><br />I was trying to be careful, allowing for mistakes caused by faulty memories.<br /><br />And you know now where mention of Olaf the Clown is to be found! I thought of him as analogous to the antics of Gaius Caligula, to use a Roman analog.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-55148182538576419812016-07-13T08:41:28.208+01:002016-07-13T08:41:28.208+01:00Hi folks,
"IIRC"? I don't remember &...Hi folks,<br />"IIRC"? I don't remember "Pierre the Fortunate" but I will look it up.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-79199861883192489122016-07-13T08:32:35.317+01:002016-07-13T08:32:35.317+01:00Kaor, Paul and Nicholas!
Paul: you asked where me...Kaor, Paul and Nicholas!<br /><br />Paul: you asked where mention of Olaf the Clown is to be found. It's in Chapter V of A KNIGHT OF GHOSTS AND SHADOWS, from a discussion Bodin Miyatovich, Gospodar of Dennitza and Governor of the Taurian Sector had with his niece Kossara Vymezal: "Does Molitor imagine we'll never get another Olaf or Josip on the throne?"..."A clown or a cancer.." Plainly, Emperor Olaf was not one of the good Emperors! Olaf was mentioned first, so I assumed "clown", first of these two pejorative words, was meant for him. While Josip was the "cancer."<br /><br />Nicholas: exactly! We see Flandry, while posing as a story teller, telling tales NEW to residents of Unan Besar. Stories about "Pierre the Fortunate," IIRC.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-27510670763518578792016-07-13T03:47:35.056+01:002016-07-13T03:47:35.056+01:00Kaor, Paul!
Not quite, IIRC. Flandry enjoyed suc...Kaor, Paul!<br /><br />Not quite, IIRC. Flandry enjoyed success as a storyteller because he told stories new to his listeners, instead of old standards about, for example, Polesotechnarch van Rijn.<br /><br />On the other hand, I don't recall any mention of Olaf the Clown, either.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br />Nicholas D. RosenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-18072790090192837262016-07-12T18:23:06.375+01:002016-07-12T18:23:06.375+01:00Sean,
Where is Olaf the Clown mentioned? I was try...Sean,<br />Where is Olaf the Clown mentioned? I was trying to list characters who appear or are mentioned in a story, then remembered in a later one. On Unan Besar, Flandry poses as a story teller and does tell a story about van Rijn.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-55477402000953370702016-07-12T16:57:00.036+01:002016-07-12T16:57:00.036+01:00Kaor, Paul!
I agree in thinking it's possible...Kaor, Paul!<br /><br />I agree in thinking it's possible that Odin and Thor had their origins in human warriors and kings.<br /><br />And the good thief, St. Dismas, was Nicholas vam Rijn's favorite saint.<br /><br />If my recollection is right, Adzel Square was set in the University district of the city of Nova Roma (another evocative name) on the planet Aeneas in THE DAY OF THEIR RETURN.<br /><br />Other Emperors besides Manuel Argos were remembered as well. Some with approbation, others disapprovingly: Manuel the Wise, Olaf the Clown, Isamu the Great, the well loved Pedro II, the well meaning Georgios, Josip III (VERY disapprovingly), etc.<br /><br />While I agree we see mention on Unan Besar of legends about "Polesotechnarch" van Rijn, we don't actually see Dominic Flandry relating stories about him there.<br /><br />Magnificent Panorama? I agree!<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com