tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post4735868048364531496..comments2024-03-28T18:59:57.979+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: Non-FictionKetlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-23873895619095398132022-03-17T06:37:00.787+00:002022-03-17T06:37:00.787+00:00Kaor, Jim!
Good points, search for possible simila...Kaor, Jim!<br />Good points, search for possible similarities Terrestrial life forms might have with those of other planets.<br /><br />I would say, instead, that Merseians PARALLELS the human race more than other species might.<br /><br />Ad astra! SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-25563343012070363402022-03-16T22:04:53.294+00:002022-03-16T22:04:53.294+00:00For deciding how likely something we see in a livi...For deciding how likely something we see in a living species on earth is to occur on another planet, look at whether we see it more than once in differenct phyla on earth.<br />Eg: the vertebrate eye & the cephalopod eye are quite similar, though there are many animal eyes that are different, so an animal with eyes similar to human eyes are likely.<br />Arthropods & vertebrates tend to have 'faces' at least in the sense that eyes & mouth are at the front & eyes are above the mouth.<br />Many four limbed vertebrates have raised their fronts to free the fore limbs for grasping, however most of them, many dinosaurs, kangaroos etc. use a large tail for balance & support when standing. so the Mersians seem more likely than a closer immitation of humans. Jim Baerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03182949391365921637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-45539566434966830192013-11-10T19:19:18.046+00:002013-11-10T19:19:18.046+00:00Hi, Paul!
Then we agree! Evolution on other worl...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Then we agree! Evolution on other worlds might parallel some of the things we see on Earth.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-53501861014663845972013-11-10T19:16:50.008+00:002013-11-10T19:16:50.008+00:00Hi, Paul!
I'm glad you feel able to agree wit...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />I'm glad you feel able to agree with Mr. Wright on some things! He even expanded one of his essays to discuss in more detail Anderson's HARVEST OF STARS books because of some comments I made. I'll look that up and send it to you in case you have not seen it.<br /><br />And comparing the works of other writers to those of Anderson is a good way of keeping this blog active.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-86712226089864496442013-11-10T18:42:58.566+00:002013-11-10T18:42:58.566+00:00On this, I am at one with Wright.
I discuss Heinl...On this, I am at one with Wright.<br /><br />I discuss Heinlein (also Wells, Stapledon, Asimov, Blish and Niven) here but only to compare them with Anderson since this remains an Anderson Appreciation blog.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-35090412076843188672013-11-10T18:40:40.999+00:002013-11-10T18:40:40.999+00:00Might parallel? Of course. We have examples of tha...Might parallel? Of course. We have examples of that on Earth. Sight and flight at least have evolved separately more than once.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-63550094661105896302013-11-10T17:45:36.916+00:002013-11-10T17:45:36.916+00:00Hi, Paul!
Hmmm, true! But you do concede that ev...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Hmmm, true! But you do concede that evolution on TERRESTROID worlds might PARALLEL how evolution turned out on our Earth? <br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-10528956874528027422013-11-10T17:42:18.271+00:002013-11-10T17:42:18.271+00:00Hi, Paul!
I forgot to add in my previous note som...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />I forgot to add in my previous note some interesting comments John C. Wright said about the later works of Heinlein, Asimov, and Sir Arthur Clark. Briefly, he thinks they became too famous, successful, and BIG for editors to get tough with. They got lazy and just coasted on the momentum their earlier successes had given them.<br /><br />Wright believes this did not happen to Poul Anderson because he never became as big and famous as the three writers listed above. Thus Anderson had less incentive to become lazy as a writer. Wright also considers Anderson a great man and genius--and thus, IMO, less likely to become so bad a writer as Heinlein, Asimov, and Clark became.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-24450833086672453042013-11-10T17:35:20.225+00:002013-11-10T17:35:20.225+00:00But there need not be 2 eyes above a nose above a ...But there need not be 2 eyes above a nose above a mouth with an ear at each side.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-25191100573334343542013-11-10T17:32:48.989+00:002013-11-10T17:32:48.989+00:00Hi, Paul!
Understood, how you came across Anderso...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Understood, how you came across Anderson's essay in that issue of the BULLETIN OF THE SFWA. My dreamed of COMPLETE COLLECTED WORKS OF POUL ANDERSON will need several volumes for his non fictional essays.<br /><br />I still think it makes sense to think some, not all, non human races to have heads/faces. It would make sense for evolution to have organs like sight, smell, and hearing (plus orifices for eating) in a head. And it would also seem to make sense to have the brain placed near those ogans, for quicker and "nearer" processing of the data given by those organs.<br /><br />I agree, beginning with STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND, Heinlein became a bore, esp. about sex and incest, in his later books. I thought only THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS was of any interest, when it came to his later works. And I esp. liked the neat plot twist in DOUBLE STAR.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-33076924558248827772013-11-10T15:45:27.187+00:002013-11-10T15:45:27.187+00:00Sean,
A former sf retailer gave me the SFWA Bullet...Sean,<br />A former sf retailer gave me the SFWA Bulletin.<br />I am sceptical that so many aliens will have recognizable faces on the terrestrial model.<br />It is amazing how Heinlein threw away everything that he previously knew about how to write fiction. He just let his characters spout their views to each other forever. Bob Shaw, a British sf writer, said, "I never finished STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND. That is how out of touch I am with Heinlein." I had to say, "You haven't missed anything."<br />The 2 books you mention were ok but it's a while since I read them.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-70198135830446238072013-11-10T07:11:15.964+00:002013-11-10T07:11:15.964+00:00Hi, Paul!
I'm glad you hope to soon acquire a...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />I'm glad you hope to soon acquire a copy of Poul Anderson's IS THERE LIFE ON OTHER WORLDS?. I look forward to whatever comments you make about that book--and possibly critiquing some of them. I would like to both reread IS THERE LIFE ON OTHER WORLDS? and compare it to later books on the same topics that work discusses.<br /><br />And how did you manage to track down Poul Anderson's invaluable essay on fictional future histories published 34 years ago in the BULLETIN OF THE SFWA? <br /><br />I do think you were too dismissive of the possibility that non human races on other worlds might also have a "humaoid" form. That is, two legs, two arms, and a head. I would argue that it makes sense to think evolution would favor many species using two legs for moving about and freeing up the forelimbs to use for grasping, manipulating, making tools/weapons, etc.<br /><br />This does not mean I don't also think it's possible races as strange looking as Larry Niven's Pierson's Puppeteers may also exist. It's my view that Poul Anderson was better than many other SF writers in writing speculative descriptions of what non human rational beings are like, both in body and mind. And that he could invent very plausible non humanoid aliens. One example being the Baburites we see in MIRKHEIM.<br /><br />I see you have been discussing Heinlein in this blog. I really should reread his THE MAN WHO SOLD THE MOON, THE GREEN HILLS OF EARTH, and REVOLT IN 2100, which covers much of his "Future History." But what do you think of non series Heinlein books such as DOUBLE STAR or THE PUPPET MASTERS? Last, I think we both still agree that most of the books Heinlein wrote beginning with STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND onwards was, alas, dreck. His later works shows a pathetic and tragic decline in the quality of his writing.<br /><br />Sean Sean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com