tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post4378737172811874048..comments2024-03-28T23:42:09.625+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: Earthman's Burden IIKetlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-50031686171889248872013-11-30T15:39:23.435+00:002013-11-30T15:39:23.435+00:00Hi, Paul!
An indication, perhaps, of how the &quo...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />An indication, perhaps, of how the "...demon teddy bears" confuse non Hokas? (Smiles)<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-78653753589974930412013-11-30T09:47:38.505+00:002013-11-30T09:47:38.505+00:00So HOKA! HOKA! HOKA! collects EARTHMAN'S BURDE...So HOKA! HOKA! HOKA! collects EARTHMAN'S BURDEN and HOKA and HOKAS POKAS collects HOKA! HOKA! HOKA! and STAR PRINCE CHARLIE? Appropriately confusing.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-33847006148281559012013-11-30T09:45:28.359+00:002013-11-30T09:45:28.359+00:00Nicholas,
You are right. Hokas got English from th...Nicholas,<br />You are right. Hokas got English from the first expedition.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-64140919930072174972013-11-30T07:44:24.395+00:002013-11-30T07:44:24.395+00:00Hi, Paul!
Thanks for your replies. Oops! Unde...Hi, Paul! <br /><br />Thanks for your replies. Oops! Understood re my unnecessary correction of the mistake you made. The fullest descriptions I've seen of Admiralty Center can be found in Chapter II of THE REBEL WORLDS and Chapter VI of WE CLAIM THESE STARS. I rather like the idea I've long had that Archopolis was simply centered at a renamed and rebuilt Constantinople.<br /><br />I checked and "Starkad" is used for the planet and "Starkadians" for the Tigeries and Sea People. With "Starkadh" being used for the figure from Scandinavian legends.<br /><br />And, unless you are a completist, I don't think you need to get HOKA! HOKA! HOKA! and HOKAS POKAS. All the shorter works in those books can be found in EARTHMAN'S BURDEN or HOKA! (with STAR PRINCE CHARLIE to be found in HOKAS POKAS).<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-87473683300839497972013-11-30T05:00:29.666+00:002013-11-30T05:00:29.666+00:00I think that Jones experiences no language problem...I think that Jones experiences no language problems because the Hokas speak English, having learned it and their pseudo-Wild West culture, from the previous expedition. There's a scene where one of the male Hokas -- who go by names like "Slick" and "The Lone Rider" -- point out a couple of females, who have old-fashioned Hoka names. When Jone asks why, his interlocutor says that it wouldn't do for every female to be named "Jane." <br /><br />Best Regards, NicholasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-49655167587751538732013-11-29T22:46:52.058+00:002013-11-29T22:46:52.058+00:00Sean (or anyone),
There are 2 other titles: HOKA! ...Sean (or anyone),<br />There are 2 other titles: HOKA! HOKA! HOKA! and HOKAS POKAS. I think that the 1st is simply EARTHMAN'S BURDEN + HOKA but what is the 2nd?<br />Thanks in advance,<br />Paul.<br />Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-79137182929630070512013-11-29T22:35:24.050+00:002013-11-29T22:35:24.050+00:00Sean,
You are right about Saxo and Starkadh but I ...Sean,<br />You are right about Saxo and Starkadh but I had spotted and corrected the mistake before I got your comment! - although I may have mis-spelt "Starkadh."<br />And I am not clear what I thought about Admiralty Centre and Archopolis. Those passages need to be reread.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-60246161754503405372013-11-29T08:44:58.046+00:002013-11-29T08:44:58.046+00:00Hi, Paul!
Or were you speculating Admiralty Cente...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Or were you speculating Admiralty Center was a part of Archopolis? Were you thinking the Imperial capital was placed in western North America? Possible, I suppose, but not the impression I got from other works, such as A STONE IN HEAVEN.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-53723451020943521372013-11-29T08:40:15.344+00:002013-11-29T08:40:15.344+00:00Hi, Paul!
Apologies for being nit picky, but &quo...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Apologies for being nit picky, but "Saxo" was the name given by the Grand Survey to the STAR, and Starkadh was the fifth planet of that system. The star was named after the medieval Danish historian Saxo Grammaticus and the planet for a figure taken from Scandinavian legends.<br /><br />And, while I'm sure there were Admiralty offices in Archopolis, the HQ of the Imperial Navy was situated at Admiralty Center, in or near the Rocky Mountains of western North America. Perhaps in the former US state of Colorado?<br /><br />And try to relax and have fun reading the Hoka stories! (Smiles)<br /><br />Sean<br /><br />Sean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com