tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post4305851358244765320..comments2024-03-29T09:09:24.834+00:00Comments on Poul Anderson Appreciation: A Few Details On VenusKetlanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08588156788583883454noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-3272762100738630842015-03-26T07:27:50.443+00:002015-03-26T07:27:50.443+00:00Hi, Paul!
I suggest as well that Chives, Flandry&...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />I suggest as well that Chives, Flandry's invaluable Shalmuan pilot/valet/chef, etc., was also very like Jeeves in his manner of speaking. Chives' use of the Emperor's Anglic was impeccably correct and cultured. Plus, in Section II of "The Game of Glory," we see this as Flandry was talking to the port official at Nyanza's space port: "Most of him was listening to the fellow's accent. The inexhaustible variations on Anglic were a hobby of his."<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-4980198397942990022015-03-25T18:58:41.264+00:002015-03-25T18:58:41.264+00:00Hi, Paul!
Yes, as you defined it, "upper cru...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Yes, as you defined it, "upper crust English" SHOULD be a pleasure to listen to. Not something to be mocked or satirized.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-79017829975298549062015-03-25T16:45:03.924+00:002015-03-25T16:45:03.924+00:00Sean,
Yes. As spoken by someone who is well educat...Sean,<br />Yes. As spoken by someone who is well educated enough to have a large vocabulary complete with Latin aphorisms. Also who is used to being listened to, not interrupted or talked over. Thus, able to expound slowly, thoughtfully and at length without slang or abbreviations, pronouncing each syllable clearly and correctly. (It should be a pleasure to listen to, I suppose.) Jeeves' dialogue falls into this category.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-24773021341153490612015-03-25T15:52:41.391+00:002015-03-25T15:52:41.391+00:00Hi, Paul!
I agree, in SF terms, thinking of Wing ...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />I agree, in SF terms, thinking of Wing Commander Blair being related to George Orwell makes more sense.<br /><br />Is one characteristic of very upper crust English being how it's very painfully, painstakingly correct and accurate? <br /><br />The US also has dialects and regional variations in how English is used or mangled, btw! <br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-43578817911854468322015-03-25T15:20:41.147+00:002015-03-25T15:20:41.147+00:00Sean,
You are right. Orwell is a better guess.
Not...Sean,<br />You are right. Orwell is a better guess.<br />Not sure if I can characterize those accents, let alone differentiate them! Just very upper crust English. I thought that the actor Robert Morley had attended Eton College but googling discloses that he went to Wellington. But I think that listening to a guy like that gives you some idea, though.<br />Paul.Paul Shackleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180596532266581425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-11914643069263439382015-03-25T15:08:55.157+00:002015-03-25T15:08:55.157+00:00Hi, Paul!
A couple more comments I forgot to make...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />A couple more comments I forgot to make. I have heard of the oft maligned or satirized Oxford accent, but "...an excruciatingly Etonian voice..." is new to me. What characterizes both types of accent?<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3538502828554372917.post-84202451443213793162015-03-25T15:05:31.413+00:002015-03-25T15:05:31.413+00:00Hi, Paul!
Darn! Why didn't I think of that, ...Hi, Paul!<br /><br />Darn! Why didn't I think of that, Wing Commander Blair being related to former Prime Minister Blair? Or, for that matter, to the novelist Eric Arthur Blair, better known as George Orwell! At least two of Orwell's books: ANIMAL FARM and 1984 are arguably SF.<br /><br />SeanSean M. Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13973738112230622557noreply@blogger.com